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The MSM are part of the problem. Their shameful reporting and misrepresentation of the issues is part of the reason that the country has been led by the nose into the worst situation it has ever faced. The EUSSR just in case anybody was unsure what I'm referring to :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:

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So maybe what we need is for somebody who is unbiased to set out a list of advantages of being in the EU and a list of disadvantages of being in the EU. That way we could then see for ourselves and make an informed opinion on whether being a member is a good thing or not.

 

volunteers anybody?

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The EEC was still a free market for those countries who were in it, they came for the free market!

 

So you admit that it was nothing to do with EU now, do you?

 

We had a vote on membership of the Common Market, and it passed.

 

If we had another vote today on membership of the Common Market I dare said it'd pass again.

 

But what the hell has that got to do with membership of (for which we can read, vassal status to) the EU superstate?????? Membership that has been foisted upon us without our being given any kind of say.

 

If you're trying to claim that the EU and the EEC are even vaguely similar organisations - in scope, powers, budget, size, or in any other way - then you've just demonstrated quite ably how little you really know about the subject!!!!!

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There are countries which operate a free trade agreement with the EU but are not part of it.... we export probably more to countries outside the EU than we internally within it.

 

There is an effect called the Rotterdam effect (apparently) which the likes of Kije and other EU monkeys rarely talk about when it comes to exports to the EU over the rest of the world...... The favourite [pro-EU myth] is where europhiles insist that 70% of our trade is with the EU, so it’d be suicide to leave. This is a myth for two reasons – firstly, you can have free trade with the EU without being a member (EEA). But more fundamentally, it’s a deliberate manipulation of statistics – a lot of our world wide trade goes via Holland, as you get very good shipping links there. But because that involves goods being moved from the UK, to Holland (even though they only stay there for a few days), some pro-EU commentators use that to bulk up EU trade figures, and make it look like there’s more genuine intra-EU trade than there really is.”

sneaky eh???

 

You don't have to be in the EU to trade with it on a equal basis..... those that buy British now won't suddely go and find suppliers from elsewhere because that is why they buy from us now; because we are their supplier. So bloke in Germany buying parts for something he is making isn't going to buy from another country just because some knob in Brussels tells him to.

 

The big problem of coures is under EU rules; Britain is committed to run its economy for the benefit of the EU as a whole and as such cannot make decisions which benefit us, but disadvantage another EU country......

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No we don't Baz most of our trade is within :wink:

 

Nissan and other foreign companies located here to be within the free market

 

I have absolutely no idea what you mean by that statement in relation to my post about the Rotterdam effect..... is that the EU lovers way of dealing with it; to ignore it and deny it??

 

Nissan located here because they could lay off workers at the drop of a hat with very little comeback if they had to.....Government handouts helped too....

 

Ford moved over to Eastern Europe because the labour is/was cheap... there are many factors and the UK being in the "free market" as you put it certainly wasn't top of the list I'll bet.

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