observer Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 A Tory MP has proposed a referendum on the EU, which is due for debate in Parliament this month. Assuming MPs are in touch with the public mood, they will agree to the referendum (and pigs might fly), being held by 2013. the questions suggested for the referendum would be - 1) Do you wish to remain a member of the EU? 2) Do you wish to cease being a member of the EU? 3) Do you wish to remain a member, but with reduced powers of the EU? The third option would appear to muddy the water somewhat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Mac Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 I would suspect that the question will not be quite so simple as your third option. From what I have seen elsewhere referanda questions are rarely set out in an easy to understand format. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 Not my options, they've been tabled by a Tory MP - imo there should just be the two options - IN or OUT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inky pete Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 The 3-way question is specifically designed to split the "no" vote and allow the powers that be to claim that staying in is the "most popular" option. Â It would make more sense to have two yes/no questions. Â Should the UK leave the EU? IF the UK remains in the EU, should it seek to repatriate powers currently residing in Brussels? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 the questions suggested for the referendum would be - 1) Do you wish to remain a member of the EU? 2) Do you wish to cease being a member of the EU? 3) Do you wish to remain a member, but with reduced powers of the EU? Â And they will probably end up as :- Â 1) Do you wish to remain a member off the EU and continue to enjoy the many benefits that EU membership entitle you to. Â 2) Do you wish to cease being a member off the EU and lose the billions in investment we have put into it. Â 2) Do you wish to remain a member but with the possibility of having less off the restrictions imposed by them. Â Â P.S. if the questions do end up as stated above then I will say it is just coincidence and nothing whatever to do with the government reading this post and pinching my ideas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 The paper talk is that "call me Dave" is going to tell HIS Party to say NO to a referendum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry hayes Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't he promise a referendum as a pre-election slogan. Â Happy days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't he promise a referendum as a pre-election slogan. Â didn't they all?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 Silly beggrs. Don't they all promise you the moon to get you to vote for them? Then when they get elected they laugh at the fools who believed them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 Blair and Kinnock have probably told him all about the personal financial benefits of the EU gravy train after his time as PM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 Call me Dave will make sure that all his MPs vote against, the Lib Dims will vote against and so will the brothers in OldNuLiebour. So no referendum then. :wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 Correct - and the lesson is, if you vote for pro-EU Parties, we'll never get out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 I'm glasd we agree on something at least Obs :wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 Sure we agree on quite a few topics, yer tend to remember those that we don't! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 but all of the main parties are main parties because everyone votes for them..... Â unfortunately it is only the fringe parties who want out of Europe because they are the ones less likely to benefit from the gravy train. Â So, unless we can get 50% of the population to abandon their usual voting habits and vote BNP, UKIP or whoever else, we will continue to be stuck in this EU hell..... mind you, the way things are going in Greece, it may all collapse before we get a chance to vote anyway!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 Sorry Baz the EU will still be here next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 Sorry Baz the EU will still be here next year   So you keep saying, but every time that you say it, the situation is a lot worse. The walls are crumbling and the foundations are shaking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 Your analysis is correct imo Baz, and I sincerely hope your right about "the collapse" - but I fear it's going to cost British tax-payers an arm and a leg trying to save it from "collapse". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 It amazes me how you can be so smug Kije. The fact that you can seem to rejoice when countries are being allowed to go bust just to keep this EU monster from collapsing is frankly obscene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 It's luvvy liberal dogma Baz; sleep walking from one self inflicted crisis to the next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 If it does all fall apart like we hope, maybe we can give the robbing thieving scum known as commisioners the same rough justice given to Gaddafi..... Â It would be a fitting end for them all if you ask me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 It will cost the UK more if it does collapse , better to stay in, and change from within. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 It will cost the UK more if it does collapse , better to stay in, and change from within. Â Â You jest. Wasn't that how we got the Human Rights farce and all the rest of the foreign dictats??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 It will cost the UK more if it does collapse , better to stay in, and change from within. Â Idon't suppose you have any statistical proof of this bold statement (not counting political party propoganda)? :unsure: :unsure: :lol: :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 "Change from within"? Well our representative over the years have certainly done that - changed it from a "Common Market" into a "European UNION" . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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