observer Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 Teresa May want's to scrap the HR Act, along with most of the Country - but will Nick Clegg and his toga wearers let her? :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 Well seems like Kenny Clarke wont. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 Maybe a compromise could be reached - end all human rights for anyone convicted of a crime! And deport foreign immigrants who have been convicted, straight from the court to the airport, - family or no family, cat or no cat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 We can't scrap it without leaving the EU as it comes with the package. Ms May, being a politician and government minister, is just as thick as the rest of them. She also wants us to have a Bill of Rights she says, again showing her ignorance of the fact that we have had one for over 3 centuries. Sack the lot and start again, it's the only way! :angry: :angry: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 Agree with the sentiment Asp, if not the accuracy of your statement. The Treaty on HR was a seperate Treaty to the EU debacle; still, I agree we need to get out of both ASaP. Our constitution is unwritten - time we had a written one, based on common interest and common sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 Teresa May, like you lot was taken in by a Daily Mail story about an immigrant who was aloud to stay because he had bought a cat, maybe a bit of truth is needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 I don't know about anyone else but I haven't seen any article about an immigrant's cat. Unlike LtKije I don't read the Mail :wink: :wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 Well you cannot by Viz anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 Is that true? :neutral: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 The tale of "the cat" is irrelevent; enough to know that an ILLEGAL immigrant, who ran down a 12 yo girl (no tax or insurance), was saved from deportation due to having some sprogs with a Brit - hence his claim under Article 8 of the HR Act, to a "right to a family life" - something he'd denied to the 12yo girl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 The sprog as you put it has a right to a family Obs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 On that basis, there would be no single mothers - but there loads nowadays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 Here we go again. Sooner or later everything comes back to the 'same' in the 'Obs World' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 So your point is? :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 Stop following me around Obs  My point is that sooner or later all your finger pointing does seem to be directed back to point the blame at single mothers, unmarried 'parents', divorced, the less fortunate or those who maybe cannot find jobs etc. Not saying you are always wrong or right but you do always seem to come back to the same  'Night' for he second time my dear Obs. No malice or hard feelings intended as I think you are pretty cool really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 The sprog as you put it has a right to a family Obs   but will daddy tell him/her the bedtime story of how he ran over and killed a little girl I wonder?  and yes, a right to a family.....but if there was justice it wouldn't be in this country Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 if there was justice he would not have been here to do it in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Right on Sid! :grin: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 So are you advocating there should be more single mothers Obs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Nope, perhaps more abortions though, for those who can't/won't take precautions in casual relationships. :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 I to agree with Sid, but it did happen he had children over here and the judge quite rightly had to take them into account when making his decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 So - on that basis Kije: if someone is convicted of murder, they can't be sent to prison, on the grounds that their kids have a right to a family life? Typical liberal tie youself in knots nonesense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 WHY can't the whole family be shifted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 I must say that I am in agreement with Peter. When I am in Egypt I am required to obey the laws of Egypt and do so (when in Rome do as the Romans do). So why should immigrants in the UK not be expected to obey british laws? Many of the immigrants were law breakers in their own country, that is obvious, and why they come to the UK pleading asylum on the grounds of persecution in their own country. If they want to live the comparatively easier lifestyle in the UK then they should be expect to obey the laws. Break them then they should be deported back to where they came from, family or no family, and if they want to keep the family together then the family should go with them, or stay as they wish, but certainly the family should not be used as a means of avoiding deportation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Sounds about right Cleo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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