asperity Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 Here is a cost/benefit analysis of our EU membership. My link Any Europhiles care to comment? It's a bit large so apologies to anyone with a slow connection Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 GOOD GRIEF !!!!!!! I only browsed over it quickly and that was enough..but I'll certainly be having a better read of that when I have a bit more time tomorrow Over to Lt K in the mean time I guess and I wonder what he makes of it all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 He will poo poo it like he always does.... all the figures will be made up and lies and we would cease to exist as a country without the EU he will say.... Of course the paper only serves to show what most people already know; that the EU costs us billions of pounds, it takes money off countries and then gives it back to them but via the massively expensive systems they have in place in the EU and that we would not lose out in trade with the EU if we did decide to leave. The EU is a huge gentlemans club for rich politicians and serves as a retirement nestegg for ex members of parliament in the form of commisioner jobs....Kinnock et al. lets get out and get out now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 Yep your right I will Poo it, Read it like you read any other party manifesto, with a pinch of salt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 Are you saying there is no truth in what it says then Lt and the figures are all completely wrong ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted July 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 Yep your right I will Poo it, Read it like you read any other party manifesto, with a pinch of salt Of course you are ready to produce your list of cost benefits our membership brings aren't you LtKije? Thought not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry hayes Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 Like Dave said, "you are a hard hearted lot". Who begrudges all those billions we contribute to poorer Europeans. (slightly TIC) Happy days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 .. not just Europeans, seems we donate to everyone but ourselves. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 But we are a world super power, we don't need the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2010/feb/24/uk-trade-exports-imports# Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted July 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2010/feb/24/uk-trade-exports-imports# But we don't have to be paying members of the EUSSR to trade with its members. Other countries manage very well. You will have to do better than that LtKije And of course The Grauniad.........say no more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 It's only a free trade zone, if your in it asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 no it isn't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 Very funny Asp, before taking the Mick out of the Guardian, look where you got your info UKIP, I trust the Guardian more, after all it was the paper that got to the bottom of phone hacking, and they have no axe to grind, unlike UKIP. Nice try though, perhaps you should have shelled where you got your info, better look next time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 Very funny Asp, before taking the Mick out of the Guardian, look where you got your info UKIP, I trust the Guardian more, after all it was the paper that got to the bottom of phone hacking, and they have no axe to grind, unlike UKIP. Nice try though, perhaps you should have shelled where you got your info, better look next time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 I always suspected you had blinkers Baz, and now I know, try taking them off. Theirs a whole World out their Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 Well, "in it" or not; looks like the British tax-payer is going to have to cough up again: not just for the budget hike and the drop in the rebate; but to bale out the Euro. Seems that although we're not actually "in" the Euro-Zone, our banks are so tied into loans to these free-loaders, especially Ireland; that we're not going to escape a domino collapse starting with Greece - so we're all "in it" together, up to our necks. So even more austerity, while Dave throws £millions out to the rest of the world. tut tut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 Lots of American banks stand to loose aswell, I'm sur we have mentioned this before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 Such are the joys of global capitalism! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 I always suspected you had blinkers Baz, and now I know, try taking them off. Theirs a whole World out their well if you really are so dumb and blinkered that you can't realise when someone is taking the mickey out of you Kije, that is a true indication of your denial! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted July 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 Very funny Asp, before taking the Mick out of the Guardian, look where you got your info UKIP, I trust the Guardian more, after all it was the paper that got to the bottom of phone hacking, and they have no axe to grind, unlike UKIP. Nice try though, perhaps you should have shelled where you got your info, better look next time. Your trust in the Grauniad only strengthens my conviction as to your naiivity LtKije. As for them getting to the bottom of the phone hacking, don't you think that it has more to do with "kicking the opposition" than getting to the truth of the matter. The Grauniad and the BBC would like nothing better than to see their rival sunk, hence their joint hysteria over the last couple of weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wahl Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 there are no benefits in being in the eu. in fact in Portugal prices have more than trippled since they joined the eu euro currency. Fewer turists now and lots of businesses closing down. They are in line to follow Greece Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wahl Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 Actually there are benefits in the eu. If you are a mep or a lord or lady or some unelected minion no benefits to this country as any worthwhile projects are not funded from eu.... only miscellaneous "green" projects that contribute little or nothing to the well being of the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry hayes Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 Can anyone answer the question contained in the head-line? Happy days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 Asp, you seem to trust your figures, where do you get your news. You seem to think all news is liberal clap trap. To formulate an opinion you need to get evidence, what media do you use to get yours. It is you who are naive you don't even know you are being taken in. Nothing to do with kicking the opposition just good journalism , can I infer you are a supporter of Mr Murdock and his empire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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