Dizzy Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 It appears that the Internal Investigation/Audit has now been completed. For anyone who may be interested the TWO REPORTS can be found here (when I say found ..you can only find them if you figure out where to look (that's rather ironic eh ) Click the link then click on Agenda Items 6 and 6A - Planning Investigation http://cmis.warrington.gov.uk/cmis5/Meetings/tabid/73/ctl/ViewMeetingPublic/mid/410/Meeting/6870/Committee/1195/Default.aspx Also quite a few comments made under the latest news story which make interesting reading where Cllr Barr calls for an independant public inquiry .. http://www.warrington-worldwide.co.uk/articles/10873/1/Nothing-to-hide-over-plans-blunder/Page1.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sha Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 From the amount of comments on the 3 news page articles it's pretty obvious that there's more than a few people really interested / concerned about this issue. One would have thought that the comments would have been transferred to the forum by now! No news on the latest council meeting either! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 You are right no news from the Thrusday's meeting.. that's odd unless it was cancelled or deferred. Anyway SHA I dont think that news comments can be transferred to here as such but nothing stopping all those who have taken the time to comment under the news item to actually resigter on the forum pages and either comment under this topic or start their own new thread. No personal details are needed to register and join the forum and it's just the same as posting inder the news item with a comment but the forums a better place for debate and chat, more people get involved as it stays in view longer and as such more more people read it... In the mean time I'll just add the latest news report direct link on here which contains many coments like you say. (you could have done that yourself though) see more here External plans probe pledged and recent comments http://www.warrington-worldwide.co.uk/articles/10926/1/External-plans-probe-pledged/Page1.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 Do they really think that the public are that gullible? Mind you, I can think of an ex-member of WBC who posts on here saying "yes". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sha Posted July 3, 2011 Report Share Posted July 3, 2011 People are generally apathetic over what goes on in local government but the various 'goings on' in this town over the last few years has seemed to incline people more to action than apathy. This latest scandal would be hard to brush under the carpet. Without a full investigation confidence in the integrity of the council and it's officers will not be restored. Not sure an investigation "the scope and terms of reference" of which will be defined by the council's own Audit and Governance Committee will satisfy the public though! I am of the same opinion as Peter - they should call in the Fraud Squad and get it sorted! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted July 3, 2011 Report Share Posted July 3, 2011 When they can't be trusted to sort out the bins and recycling, how can they be trusted on serious matters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro Posted June 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2012 I understand the Public Inquiry Inspector's report into the Council's destruction of pre 1996 Planning Records has been published and discussed by the Council last evening - anyone seen the report or heard the Council's views yet ?? I know the Inspector was not best pleased that the now retired Council Planning officers responsible would not cooperate in the Inquiry and under their terms of contract could not be made to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted June 29, 2012 Report Share Posted June 29, 2012 so must have had something to hide perhaps?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted June 29, 2012 Report Share Posted June 29, 2012 The report is available on the council's site. The new old, temporary chief executive says lessons will be learned, undoubtedly meaning it will be brushed under the carpet and forgotten - if the people of Warrington allow it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted June 29, 2012 Report Share Posted June 29, 2012 In the States, they would call it 5th ammendment rights Baz! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 Well it seems there's been no "cover up" (remember Nixon saying that?!), but, as with all such Inquiry conclusions - "there are lessons to learn". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 One lesson worth learning is for the council to ensure both now and in the future that all those employed in high decision making posts who are so called 'highly trained' and 'qualified' in their field such as senior officers and above all know the LAW when it comes to thir jobs. And like the inspector pointed out maybe changes need to be made which mean people who have retired from, or left their employment with, the coucil can still be held accountable and questioned over such gross levels of incompetence. John Earle and Alan Stephenson didn't even bother turning up to put their side forward or to be questioned further despite being 'invited' and contacted by the inspector and as they are no longer employed by the council there was nothing he could do as he had no power to make them attend or answer. I've not read it fully yet but he didn't seem too impressed with their attitude and lack of help, one even had the cheak to say he wanted no further contact Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 I forgot to add that when I just google searched for the final .pdf report again to read a bit more I now get this.............. http://www.warrington.gov.uk/content_documents/Documents/Corporatepolicies/Planning_inquiry_final_report.doc How ironic is that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted July 5, 2012 Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 Maybe been shredded? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted July 5, 2012 Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 Seems that most google searches are now giving the same error IF they relate to and/or return a council document. I just tried '20mph warrington' and other stuff and they all go to the councils website and give the same error Reason WBC HAVE REVAMPED THEIR WEBSITE AGAIN AND OBVIOUSLY MOVED FILES ETC .... Clever Time for a new topic I think..... So back to Planning and the destruction of records and the inspectors findings (or lack of findings)on this one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted July 5, 2012 Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 It would be interesting to know which records were actually destroyed and to which planning applications they applied - as that would be a good indicator as to why they were destroyed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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