observer Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 Katherine Zeta-Jones has apparently been diagnosed with bi-polar syndrome - well I guess it must be depressing wondering where your next $million is coming from! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 I thought bi-polar was a white bear that was unsure of its sexuality! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 Bi- polar: Genetic Factor The cause of manic depression is biological in origin and genetic -- Manic depression tends to run in families. Genetic abnormalities appear in chromosomes. A combination of biological, genetic, and environmental factors ?appears to trigger and perpetuate the chemical imbalances in the brain that shape this complex disorder.? Abnormal Brain Activity The multi-faceted cause of manic depression has been revealed by imaging scans and other tests to the brain. These show: Oversecretion of cortisol, a stress hormone Excessive calcium influx into brain cells Abnormal hyperactivity in parts of the brain associated with emotion and movement coordination Low activity in parts of the brain associated with concentration, attention, inhibition, and judgment. Neurotransmitters Elevated level of vesicular monoamine transporter (VMAT2), a protein in the brain that regulates neurotransmitters, has been observed in the brainstems of bipolar disorder patients. ?Neurotransmitters called gamma aminobutyric acid (GABA) and norepinephrine have been implicated in mania.? Infectious Agents Like Viruses Researchers are observing the role infectious agents may play as a trigger or cause of manic depression. The Borna virus and herpes simplex 2 virus are viruses that are under investigation concerning possible causes of manic depression or bipolar disorder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 Sorry guys, but this is NOT a flippant subject. I know several people who have this, and it is not nice. In plain English, it is extreme mood swings that the person doesn't know they are having. A little more sympathy and "understanding" of the problem might help and a realisation, that people do have problems that we are unaware of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 'Stacy' and her 'mum' in Eastenders had that (not in real life) and I'd never heard of it until then... before that I thought it was a term for those who ermmm.. were like Baz said.... but not polar bears Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 Syndromes appear to be trendy these days - especially with celebs trying to get press coverage - in the old days you were just told to "get over it". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 Various reports say she's suffering from depression... or suffering from manic depression...or suffering from Bipolar II all brought on by nursing her cancer stricken husband. Are all three the same and is BP II now just the posh name for depression as there must be a lot of people suffering from the same but they don't know it or hit the headlines in such a spectacular way or have the money to book into posh rehab centres Hope she's feeling better soon though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 Syndromes appear to be trendy these days - especially with celebs trying to get press coverage - in the old days you were just told to "get over it". OR is it the press trying to get into the news. She is at home and preparing to start filming shortly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 You suddenly changed your tune Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 You suddenly changed your tune Peter How? Just quoting the news and informing those concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 After having a right go at people for being 'flippant' ealier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 Could he be having mood swings?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 For some reason people still seem to think that certain types of mental illness are fake - to get a check or sympathy. Believe me Bi-polar (manic-depression) is a pretty horrible disease. Thank God nowadays they have medicine that helps smooth out the highs and lows - used to be they were thrown in a loony bin and left there or even worse sent to jail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgusted Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 Sorry guys, but this is NOT a flippant subject. I know several people who have this, and it is not nice. In plain English, it is extreme mood swings that the person doesn't know they are having. A little more sympathy and "understanding" of the problem might help and a realisation, that people do have problems that we are unaware of. You realise it was Observer who started the thread? The guy who knows nothing about anything but who has an opinion on everything? I know it's ironic of me to say don't let him bother you, when he constantly gets on my tits, but nevertheless his pop psychology really isn't worth it. To claim you can't be depressed because you have money is so laughable it's hard to know where to start, so I simply won't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgusted Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 Syndromes appear to be trendy these days - especially with celebs trying to get press coverage - in the old days you were just told to "get over it". You're right to roll your eyes at the former attitudes to mental issues Obs (though starnge about face from your OP ), luckily nowadays we're much better educated and understand you can't simple get over it, and that help is needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 You suddenly changed your tune Peter NO, I didn't change my tune. I wasn't being flippant, just giving an update from the starting post, which made it sound as if it had just happened, to the 6pm news update for those interested or concerned. The rolling eyes were about obs, NOT my comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 Hope you get better soon Fats! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 It is comments like that Obs that just show how ignorent you sometimes are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 Oooh Lighten up chaps... in a way Obs is right as how many times have we all read about celebs suffering from 'this, that or the other' and lets face it the papers always make it out to be far worse than it often is And yes certain types of stress related 'depression' can be 'got over' without the need for medication and costly therapy intervention... although I obviously realise that is not always the case... but it can be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 See Kije is winding himself up, when he should be de-stressing on the beach! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 Are you on holiday Lt Goodness me you should be relaxing, taking some time out, putting your life and feelings into perspective and taking control as apparently it's good for the nervous system and stops 'over sensitisation' which in turn relieved stress...anxiety..depression etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 .... plus a tan! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 Its great in Goa, I would recommend it to everyone, Very hot, very good beaches, cheap beer and cheap food, and I've discovered where Russians go on holiday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 - only the wealthier ones - nastrovia! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 Its great in Goa, I would recommend it to everyone, Very hot, very good beaches, cheap beer and cheap food, and I've discovered where Russians go on holiday. so do you reckon you are helping the local economy or exploiting the locals who do not have our working conditions and minimum wages etc? I personally would reckon the latter, otherwise you would holiday in the UK or Europe where wages and workers rights abound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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