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Maggie did show the world how to sort out the militants union wreckers.

 

She also showed the world how to destroy your manufacturing base, and made it easier for foreign countries to buy british industry. A bit one sided coming from someone who claims to sit on the fence :wink:

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I see Maggie has been dragged into this thread for some reason.

 

Why can't you folk rise above party politics occasionally and admit that we have had two GREAT Prime Ministers since Churchill - one was Maggie and the other was Blair.

We had two GOOD Prime Ministers, Wilson and MacMillan. We have had two DISASTROUS Prime Ministers, Douglas Home and Callaghan.

Pretty equally distributed between the two main parties, I'd say?

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Blair a great Prime Minister? Whatever are you drinking? :shock:

 

I was wondering that. Blair got us into this mess whilst lining his own pockets. His only failure in his eyes, was NOT getting the Presidency of Europe, which is what it was all about and why he sold his country down the river.

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Maggie did show the world how to sort out the militants union wreckers.

 

She also showed the world how to destroy your manufacturing base, and made it easier for foreign countries to buy british industry. A bit one sided coming from someone who claims to sit on the fence :wink:

 

WHAT A LOAD of WAFFLE!.

The Unions played a huge part in destroying the industry due to them bankrupting the major players with their excess demands which then allowed foreign buyers to take over the majority of our industry.

However, I do believe that privatising some of the industries and then having to put shareholders first was the thin edge of the wedge.

The $65,000 question is, was there an alternative?

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Waffle:shock:

 

 

Where are the big industries, Why are we importing coal, British steel was making money when it was sold, She also changed the rules on foreign companies taking over british companies, Making it easier for foreign companies to buy them and their order books, You may not have noticed but its a lot harder to buy a French company than it is a British one, She made it easier and cheaper to lay off British workers. So when multi nationals are laying off its always UK workers that are hit first :!:

 

Yes the unions were to strong, but she made it personal, and took whole industries out :!::!:

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If I was a betting man I would put ?50 on there being more street parties when Maggie dies than for Kate and Wills marriage. :wink:

 

Archived for future reference :wink::wink::wink:

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Which industries were these that she took out? Scargill and his Scottish comrade took the coal industry out with there ridiculous wage demands.

Red Robbo destroyed the car industry without anyones help. The teachers went through their rebellious stage and ruined education. ALL the Trade Union leaders of that era contributed more to destroying industrythan Maggie did.

She wrecked the police (I just hope Cameron doesn't do the same) and sold off the crown jewels which will come back to bite us.

 

Oh by the way. It has always been harder to sell stuff abroad (like Spain) so nothing new there.

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Errm, slight correction Pierre - the NUM strike under Scargill was against wholesale pit closures - denied at the time by Maggie and her Canadian pit bull - but Scargill actually underestimated the number that would be lost and the destructuion to whole communities etc. All in the name of ideology, as the Tories never forgave the miners for humbling Heath, so it was a vendetta on her part, designed to break the Unions and thus make labour exploitable once again. Whilst there was a case for modernisation and reform; the baby was thrown out with the bath water and a wholesale conversion to a reliance on the service and financial management sector took place - and we now know where that has led us; unlike Germany, which actually "makes things" for niche markets all over the world, hence their capacity to bale out the rest of the EU. :roll:

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Egbert.... you missed a few.

 

Brown - Total disaster

Maggie - Toatal success.... not only for being Maggie, but also for saving the country from getting Neil Kinnock in.... also the Ginger Taffy Windbag has screwed us all since with his EU gravy train position.

 

Oh, and remember chaps, we are still up there with the top manufacturing countries in the world, except nowadays we don't have the unions wrecking everything like we used to have..... mind you they are still having a go with BA...... guess the top union chaps have to justify their ?100,000 salaries some how!

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Yes we are still one of the leading manufacturing countries Baz, but how many of the UKs top manufacturing businesses are now British owned companies :?:

 

And a lot of American companies are here because we speak english and we are in the EU, some have stopped investing in the UK and gone to Ireland because they are in the single currency :wink:

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Yes we are still one of the leading manufacturing countries Baz, but how many of the UKs top manufacturing businesses are now British owned companies :?:

 

And a lot of American companies are here because we speak english and we are in the EU, some have stopped investing in the UK and gone to Ireland because they are in the single currency :wink:

 

Kije, do you answer every question with another question? Apparently it doesn't matter who owns them as long as the jobs are here..... it probably turns out that most companies are foreign owned as are most of the employees..... but that's another story.

 

Which companies have stopped being in the UK and gone to Ireland? If any have they made a good mover there then didn't they seeing as what has happened over there recently....... plus they probably only moved to Ireland because they had low corporation taxes.....which is partly why they ran out of money!

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obs. If Scargill and co had been so vociferous over modernisation instead of screing the mines for every little thing, the situation might never have occurred.

 

Kije, Ireland? I bet they are regretting it now given the mess it's in over there. :roll:

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well if American Companies are the ones which have stopped investing in the UK and have moved to Ireland ....fill your boots and lets have their names so we can boycott them!

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Sorry Pierre, I havn't got enough hair to tug my forlock - but since the demise of the Unions, we have seen a huge increase in the wealth gap (courtesy of new Labour) and now wage freezes, redundancies, benefit and service cuts, and food inflation - all depressing the peasants living standards by around a ?1,000 pa up to now - while those responsible for the fiasco are still claiming bonuses and dodging their taxes. But we're "all in it together" - but the plebs are in it a bit deeper. :wink:

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