observer Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 Rather confusing messages are now being delivered by the Chief Constable of Cheshire, and being taken up by a local paper? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 I've said it before an I'll say it again - bring back discipline in the home and schools and it will be a big step in the right direction. Make parents really accountable for the actions of their off-spring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBain Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 Why not make a stand against the do gooder pillocks who have tied our police forces hands so that giving some foul-mouthed lout a clip round the ear results in dismissal of the officer concerned and a hefty compensation payout to the lout who got biffed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little fella Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 Thousands of people waste their time going to a place and putting X on a piece of paper in the hope that they, the legal authority for the land, will do what they say they would do on a law and order policy. Everytime they do jack all. Most people in this country know the cause and the solution but for the last 25 years the authority has let the people down. If it carries on as it is how long will it be before vigilante groups are out and about sorting the scum out by not very nice methods? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve the Original Posted January 26, 2008 Report Share Posted January 26, 2008 Little Fella Quite right everyone votes and all hope those who were voted in will do things that will make our lives better but do they?? no they just play around and makes things worst and protect those who terrorise the weaker. What good is an ASBO if they dont enforce it. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted January 26, 2008 Report Share Posted January 26, 2008 LF makes a very good point, however the problem also lies with "officialdom" and those people who decline to accept the challenge of actually enforcing the rules, regulations and laws that exist, particularly those who openly flout them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2008 The problem is Paul: "officials" and institutions are surrounded by a web of laws and rules, with compensation lawyers lurking like vultures - thus creating inertia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted January 26, 2008 Report Share Posted January 26, 2008 We even have English lawyers representing Iraquis in compensation battles against the British Army!! Can you imagine what Churchill and Monty would have said? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 Never in the field of political administration, have so many been let down by so few. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little fella Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 The British legal system is too tied up in history. It has been built up over 100's of years with amendments to amendments silly names of Acts. What we need is a new start, the German system given to them by the British American alliance is quite good. They have a penal code starting at '1' murder and going down through all the laws, if you commit an offence it is contrary to XXX if the penal code. They also have a traffic and civil code. It is very easy to understand, very clear no if's, buts? and maybe's or this only applies when the moon is blue on Monday?s. They also dont have endless definitions of words that change with each different code. I have an English copy of it here that we used in the military. A simple one that I always liked was, It is an offence not to kill a caterpillar in the wine growing season. Punishment was one weeks salary. This was later amended (Mid 60's) to a fixed penalty fine and one month loss of civil liberties. Which really meant that you could not use public transport, swimming baths, libraries etc. [ 29.01.2008, 22:51: Message edited by: little fella ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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