Lt Kije Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 Just tried goggling it, They might want to know because it gives them an idea how many people are in an area, are their twelve people living in a two bed house or, are their 2 people living in a 6 bed house. I would rather answer that question than appear on cctv a hundred odd times a day, its a lot less intrusive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 At some point, they may wish to tax the under use of properties. BUT in order to plan they require demographic information, otherwise local services can be overwhelmed and distorted. EG. Didn't the population of Crewe increase by a third - when the Poles appeared? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 The population of Crewe went up by 6%, but many have gone back now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted March 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 The census already tells them how many people are in an area. They already know how many properties there are in the same area. I just think that this sort of question is too intrusive, just the same as the over abundance of CCTV cameras. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 Think they estimated the number of Poles in Crewe to be 1 in 6 of the population; due to myopic open door policy of the Labour luvvies - this sudden increase loaded local services with un-planned expenditures - like interpreters for Primary schools etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 1 in 6 does not make a third Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 Still not had mine  I was taking to my postman yesterday and he said they had all been delivered as they have a set timescale of having to deliver them all within 3 days. Maybe that is per area though  ... or maybe they don't know you 'exist'. You do have a foreign look about you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 That's why I used the word "estimated", cos without accurate demographic data, they don't really know; like they don't really know how many "illegals" have slipped through the net! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 But even your estimate was massively hyped up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 Here are the ten worst lies you will be told in the coming weeks: Â I went to a meeting with a rep from no2id, indeed the census is something i would not give my personal info to. what no2id 10 census lies piece doesnt tell you that the USA has a right to the census info under the patriot act, since its an american arms company contracted to carry it out. Â Either refuse to fill it out, and ignore the NCO's, or put in a load of rubbish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 No they don't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 No they don't  No they dont what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted March 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 Ricky, when you get to know our friend LtKije a little better you will find this sort of denial of any form of government wrongdoing crops up with depressing regularity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 The patriot act is for the Americans, Laws made in the USA have know jurisdiction over here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted March 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 And you have, of course, read the contract between the British government and Lockheed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 Here are the ten worst lies you will be told in the coming weeks: Â I went to a meeting with a rep from no2id, indeed the census is something i would not give my personal info to. what no2id 10 census lies piece doesnt tell you that the USA has a right to the census info under the patriot act, since its an american arms company contracted to carry it out. Â Either refuse to fill it out, and ignore the NCO's, or put in a load of rubbish. Â But you can't refuse to fill it in Ricky as there is a ?1000 find if you don't and surely putting a load of rubish could land you right in it if they cross checked what you put with the existing records they hold on us all. What's an NCO Â Interestingly accountants are issuing advice to directors/employees of Ltd companies (contractors mainly) as to what they should put regarding their employment status and places of work. IR 35 maybe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 American companies operating in the UK operate under UK law not American law asperity. I did not have you down as being ignorant of the law asperity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted March 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 Still not had mine  Probably because you're so well known anyway, they thought it would be a waste of paper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 Here are the ten worst lies you will be told in the coming weeks:  I went to a meeting with a rep from no2id, indeed the census is something i would not give my personal info to. what no2id 10 census lies piece doesnt tell you that the USA has a right to the census info under the patriot act, since its an american arms company contracted to carry it out.  Either refuse to fill it out, and ignore the NCO's, or put in a load of rubbish.  But you can't refuse to fill it in Ricky as there is a ?1000 find if you don't and surely putting a load of rubish could land you right in it if they cross checked what you put with the existing records they hold on us all. What's an NCO  Interestingly accountants are issuing advice to directors/employees of Ltd companies (contractors mainly) as to what they should put regarding their employment status and places of work. IR 35 maybe  Appologies, an NCO is a "Non compliance officer", they have no right whatssoever to demand to speak to you, enter your home, etc, after a few weeks they wont bother you anymore if you indeed choose to not to fill it in.  The patriot act covers all american companies, which states that the USA government demands records from american registered companies, incuding the "confidential" data collected in the census, for USA interests. the USA couldnt give a rats arse about mere British law, besides chances are MI5 will share with with the CIA anyway so the patriot act doesnt come into it.  take a look at section 39, sub section 4 in the statistics and registration act 2007, quite a wide ranging exemptions for something thats "confidential" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 This might help  http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7231186.stm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted March 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 This might help http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7231186.stm   The way you trust everything that government tells you is quite scary really. Have you been chipped already? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 You do like your conspiracy theories Asp, I'm just not as paranoid as you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted March 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 I just find it disgusting that the job of handling the census was shortlisted to either an American or German company. Â whoever didn't award it to a UK company should be hung for treason! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 I agree Baz it should have gone to a UK company, but Lockheed are a part of a number of companies involved, some of whom might be British Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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