XelaQlito Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 I think it's a great idea and I concur with those who mention the market economy as the definitive deciding factor on the success of the Pink Ladies. Now, here is my question: Isn't there some legal objection to discrimination by sex? Haven't women been fighting male-only clubs for a long time? What is the (legal) difference in this case? Of course, the idea only works if you discriminate, assuming that most (all?) muggers are men. Could another car-for-hire service offer, for example, a "No Blacks" policy with the same argument? What about London Transport offering a no-muslim service to avoid terrorist atacks? It's easy to tear down a policy/service based on discrimination. In the end I foresee they will be legally forced to accept everyone - male and female - and their uniqueness will be diluted away. If so, they could thrive by offering better service, but not one based on discriminating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 Pink Ladies operates on a members' only basis to avoid sex discrimination laws. By and large sex discrimination laws are based on the assumption that it is normally women that are discriminated against, and here is a quote from the Act: "The Sex Discrimination Act (SDA) is written in terms of discrimination against women but it applies equally to discrimination against men. These guidelines are written as if the discrimination applies to a woman but they should be read as also applying to a man". The following is the applicable exception to S29 of the Sex Discrimination Act: "services which are not covered by the SDA such as genuinely private members' clubs which operate a strict selection procedure for membership". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 Originally posted by Xela Qlito: Could another car-for-hire service offer, for example, a "No Blacks" policy with the same argument? What about London Transport offering a no-muslim service to avoid terrorist atacks? No because that would be blatant discrimination on the grounds of race or religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muttzy Posted February 18, 2006 Report Share Posted February 18, 2006 Originally posted by Xela Qlito: [qb] Could another car-for-hire service offer, for example, a "No Blacks" policy with the same argument? What about London Transport offering a no-muslim service to avoid terrorist atacks? I believe the BNP put forward the idea of a 'whites only' taxi firm as part of their minifesto in Burnley.Needless to say the idea was never heard of again once BNP Councillors were elected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted February 18, 2006 Report Share Posted February 18, 2006 I was reading an article in todays Mirror(whilst waiting for my Beef Curry) and it said that our Kerry Katona owned Pink Ladies. Can anyone confirm this? :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted February 19, 2006 Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 The firm was founded by Tina Dutton - a family friend of Katona's - and Andrea Winders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinkperson Posted October 7, 2006 Report Share Posted October 7, 2006 Does anyone know what happened to the Carlisle and London branches of Pink Ladies. They both still show on the website but i believe they both stopped trading after only a few months in business as they were making unsustainable losses. Can anyone throw any light on this and why do they still show as pink Ladies branches on the website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 We are currently reasearching this and have some big news pending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 Originally posted by Gary: We are currently reasearching this and have some big news pending. Interesting suff on todays news Gary. A question however.. It states that PL has gone into administration but it's founder says 'due to a restructuring of the business' the firm now still 'continues to expand'. How can a company go into adminstration but continue to expand at the same time?? Weird ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted December 2, 2006 Report Share Posted December 2, 2006 By restructuring! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted December 2, 2006 Report Share Posted December 2, 2006 Originally posted by pinkperson: Does anyone know what happened to the Carlisle and London branches of Pink Ladies. They both still show on the website but i believe they both stopped trading after only a few months in business as they were making unsustainable losses. Can anyone throw any light on this and why do they still show as pink Ladies branches on the website. Nobody bothered to update the website, guess it also looks more impressive if you show franchises all over the country, well that is until it gets queried on a Forum such as this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted December 2, 2006 Report Share Posted December 2, 2006 Reshuffle the pack as many times as you like but if Jacks and Kings aren?t allowed and they insist in making their own rules for the Joker they?re not going to find that many that want to join their school. As I see it, their business plan relied too much on franchising an "idea" which was probably a bit premature. If the company had managed to prove that their core business was capable of running successfully first, then it may have been a different story. The taxi business is quite simply a numbers game where cars generate income that must cover the variable running costs and the fixed costs of the base. Such low numbers of vehicles can't possibly generate enough income to cover the fixed costs unless people are prepared to pay a lot more for each journey. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted December 2, 2006 Report Share Posted December 2, 2006 I think that is a good analysis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinkperson Posted December 2, 2006 Report Share Posted December 2, 2006 Sounds like a move to avoid paying your creditors. If you are continuing to expand but putting your original company into administration it sounds very much like some funny business is going on somewhere, especially when all your franchisees are going out of business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted December 2, 2006 Report Share Posted December 2, 2006 Originally posted by Gary: By restructuring! When I get myself into a tricky situation with money or if I spend too much over Christmas on my cards I'll just make a new years resolution to 'Restructure' and all my debts will just go away. Sounds easy! thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 Gary I've just been on another forum and noticed that all the posts regarding Pink Ladies have been removed. So watch out, you might be getting a call from their solicitors??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 That would be a pity, maybe a better option would be for their solicitors to post a full statement as to the situation. These sorts of organisations can't have the best of both worlds, publicity and media coverage to help them start up then expect there to be none when things seem to be a little difficult. Sometimes a factual statement stops all of the speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 Panic over. I've just realised that some bright spark had flooded the site with posts pushing all the current issues several pages back. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 When I was out and about this morning I saw some of their vehicles on the roads, seems as though it might be business as usual......maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tilly Posted December 7, 2006 Report Share Posted December 7, 2006 Its all over now - they're being sued and going into liquidisation according to some one sat in the office next door to me, they sat yelling across to me whilst reading the Guardian ( soory to swear) Well if its true I'll miss them sooooooo much - it'll have an impact on where I go and when thats for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted December 7, 2006 Report Share Posted December 7, 2006 Tilly - it was actually reported on this site several days ago (we do have a news review section you know!) and it isn't all over - just because a company goes into receivership doesn't mean it is the end of the road. They will work with the receiver to try and make it viable so carry on supporting your pink ladies if that is what makes you happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kateoflymm Posted December 7, 2006 Report Share Posted December 7, 2006 Please, please tell me they will still be on the road tomorrow night. My colleague and I have booked one of their cabs to take us home to Latchford and Lymm, respectively, from a Christmas/birthday dinner. Colleague doesn't drive and I'd quite like to have a couple of drinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted December 7, 2006 Report Share Posted December 7, 2006 Allegedly everything is normal. Suggest you give them a ring just to put your mind at rest. If not you will have to get the coach and horses out, or has the coachman got the night off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tilly Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 Gary - sorry for missing your reveiw section / front page but am soooooooo busy at work dont usually have time Any way its all wrong according to a driver yesterday when I got a lift yesterday. Its the ones in St Helens etc that have gone into receivership but the head office in Warrington is fine and dandy, apparently alot of things being said is rummour and very inaccurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 They were out and about this morning. Kate, Did you get yours after the do? and did you have a good time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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