observer Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 Should access to medicines (EG Flu vaccine) be based solely on medical need OR on affordability? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 Oooh that's a hard one for this time of the night Obs.... I'll have to sleep on that one. For now though.. sometimes people are told there is 'no medical need' simply because the authorities have to save money It's not only that but the question could also be asked about cheaper medicines which are now routinely prescribled (again to save money) which actually in themselves make people ill or their conditions worse As for the flu vaccine.... I don't know as that is one that until supplies started to run out was being offered on a 'want' basis within companies so as to avoid possible outbreaks and 'time off' work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 IF there is an established medical need to vaccinate everyone in the Country, then it should be done - other than that, we have to accept the advise of the medicos. What imo isn't acceptable is the securing of medicines simply cos you can afford them - which would contravene the current political bugle call of "we're all in it together" (unless your a Banker of course)! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 On Need Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverlady54 Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 Definitely on medical need. Normally healthy people shouldn't be entitled to selfishly buy vaccine which other vulnerable people may need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 But this swine flu, appears to be killing "normal healthy" people too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 Its killed one healthy person Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 Is that counting the 3 yr old baby? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 Oooh that's a hard one for this time of the night Obs.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Durnim Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 Just a thought... I was going through the mother-in laws kitchen cupboard to give her some indigestion tablets after a large dinner, I could not believe my eyes, she had enough medicine and tablets, most out of date, that would cause America to think she was planning tactical biological warfare. I am sure Hans Blick would have his work cut out trying to disarm the kitchen cupboard and make it safe! Anyway being the caring type, I had the out of date medicine bagged and taken to the local chemist for safe disposal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 Its killed one healthy person Swine Flu hasn't only killed 1 healthy person at all Lt K ... do you never read the papers or listened to the news PS Wolfie... I am chosing to ignore your comment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 Sue, I found that with my mum..... she always used to have bag loads of medicines and stuff delivered regardless of wether she needed it.... now I just get a repeat prescription when she does need some..... probably a bit of a scam from the surgeruy and the chemist to keep supplying the stuff so they get paid! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 Dizzy it has killed a three year old baby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 You might find this interesting http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/ferguswalsh/2011/01/what_are_your_chances_of_dying_of_flu.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 Yeah really funny eh Lt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 My last comment was in reply to your one about the baby which you put a ' ' after !! You may find this interesting Lt 112 people with flu have died in the UK since September These includes 6 children under 5, 9 aged 5 to 14 70 aged 15 to 64. Of 81 cases where information was available, 63 were in risk groups for flu. The number of people in critical care in England has fallen from 783 last week to 661. The three-year-old's life support machine was switched off just two days after she apparently caught a cold. Among those in critical care (intensive care and high dependency), 18 patients are under five eight are aged five to 15. Of the 112 dead, 95 had swine flu and another five had flu type B. Another 12 deaths have not had their flu type confirmed. Oh yes and Warrington has one of the highest rates in the North West so I hope you don't catch it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 You tell me off for putting a then use one after saying Warrington has one of the highest rates in the country Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 My was actually meant to be read with the bit that says "I hope you don't catch it" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 Does't say much for the rest of us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 Not often your right Kije, but it seems your wrong again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 About what Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 being one of the at risk groups i have had the flu jab. also had a good bought of flu between christmas and new year. could not tell you what strain it was (apart from the strain of trying to walk a dog at seven in the morning whilst shivering uncontrollably). did not go to the doctor just followed my usual practice of staying as warm as possible and drinking plenty of fluids. no help from Mrs Sid as it was her who cam down with the flu first so not only did i have to take care of the dog but also Mrs Sid as well and all with the flu myself. did i complain? NO. did i winge and whine that i was ill? NO. did i get any sympathy from Mrs Sid? NO. did i get any thanks? have a guess. (insert faint strains of single violin in background, heaves a heavy sigh and shuffles off stage left with a sorrowful face) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 Sid it sounds like you had MAN FLU Its a terrible strain of flu, and aleast twice as bad as any flu women get Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 I actually felt quite sorry for you after reading that Evils and yes the violin music came accross without a need for actual mention in your post : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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