Peter T Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 Aren't you two bored yet? NOT a good advert for the Forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 Resuming altitude Captain! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 It appears you don't like being caught out Obs When you get to you're cruising altitude look up you might just catch a glimpse of me. Â If you don't post pap Obs, I wont pull it apart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 what's this discussion topic about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 Kije's dyslexia! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 Although seems more like 'Battle of the stubborn' if you ask me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 Not at all, its just Obs is in denial, and trying to hide behind rhetoric and other people as usual Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 ... and you just being 'you' as usual Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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disgusted Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 The Jock oil revenue arguement is wearing a bit thin, reality is it's British oil and gas, and running out - but basically, over 50million English tax-payers support 5million Jocks, 1 million Taffs and 1 million Paddies! if it's British oil & gas, then it's British tax money, not English. Â What is getting tiresome is your constant ignorant little Englander posts. There's a reason the Scots & Welsh voted for devolution, and people like you are a large part of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 Not a "little Englander" but a "big Britisher" thank you, who has no prob with devolution either, just as long as it's not confused with petty nationalism, the 7million folk in the N/West should have it too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 petty nationalism  Thats you, That is, Obs:!: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 not "petty" at all, it's on my passport! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 With the effects of the fee protests and the withdrawal of some EMAs; and the latest figure of a 20% level of youth unemployment - will this generation become politicised - and will they find an ideology to focus their anger? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fugtifino Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 ...the withdrawal of some EMAs... Â Â Not saying this hasn't happened, but the (old) news is that new applications for EMA ceased on 31/12/2010. People already in receipt of EMA will continue to receive it until the end of the academic year (providing they continue to satisfy the conditions). Â No details of what, if anything, will replace it in September, have been announced - HMG haven't worked it out yet. Â ...will this generation become politicised... Â I sincerely hope so (and this is what Tom's been saying on that other thread). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 .... but will they focus their new found politicisation through Party politics or by direct action? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 Either, is better than doing nothing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 Well, for a generation, that will possibly be the first to be worse off than their parents; I'm not sure they can have much faith in the main political Parties; after all, they've been running the show for the past 60years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 With the effects of the fee protests and the withdrawal of some EMAs; and the latest figure of a 20% level of youth unemployment - will this generation become politicised - and will they find an ideology to focus their anger? Â EMAs - the last governments attempt to keep youth unemployment at bay by bribing them to stay on at school. Not bribing them to learn anything mind you, just to sign in as having attended. Generations before 2004 managed to get a better education without the need to be bribed to turn up at school. Another policy on the hoof with no thought to the consequences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 The EMA grant is/was somewhat unfair (and I'm not saying that just because my son couldn't apply for it)  But he sees almost everyone else at college getting it ranging from the full amount of ?30 a week down to the lower amount of ?10 a week.  In some cases I wonder how they did get it considering their parents are living in big houses, have good jobs and are driving around in expensive flashy cars etc  Anyway.. they do get it and almost ALL of the kids spend it on clothes, games and other luxuries.... it's like a gift from heaven with nothing that you have to do for it other than to turn up at college.  It's done my son good not getting it though as unlike most of his friends he actually works on his days off college and earns his own 'spends' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 Your right Asp; it's called massaging the dole figures. The Tories did it during Maggie's reign with sickness benefits. Mind you, isn't the dole for a young lad around the princely sum of ?60pw, and you don't even have to get out of bed for that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 If it's ?60 for a young lad what would it be for an old knowledgeable grump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fugtifino Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 Under 18s can only claim "dole" under certain circumstances, it isn't the norm. Â At one local college the students don't get EMA if they miss one lesson in a week or if they're off sick, if just for a day. Â EMA really helps some kids and their families, and it's a cheap way of keeping young people on track. Â It's easy to say they should get a job, but unemployment for youngsters is running at something like 20%. However much we'd like it to be so, apprenticeships aren't falling out of the trees around here. Â Maybe EMA does need to be more "targetted", but HMG should be careful about how they apply this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 Strange how Eastern Europeans manage to find jobs without much problem isn't it? Could this be an unwanted consequence of the minimum wage? Just a thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 I really sympathise with these youngsters, there really isn't much down for them these days, so I can understand why our prisons are filling up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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