Gary Posted December 10, 2010 Report Share Posted December 10, 2010 Following the riots in London regarding student tuition fees do you still feel supportive towards their cause? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted December 10, 2010 Report Share Posted December 10, 2010 I put 'undecided' because whilst I was origionally totally against the rises in student fees these riots and the actions of those students involvesd are swaying me the other way. Ever stopped to think that maybe the government are paying the low lifes to riot... after all it's certainly taking the sympathy vote away from the poor students and making the public despise their every action. Now there's a conspiracy theory if ever there was one I do think though that the idiots who are rioting actually deserve to pay a damn sight more and should be banned from any form of further education... infact they should be forced to pay the fees of the students who are acting responsibly. Off with the rioters heads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted December 10, 2010 Report Share Posted December 10, 2010 Now it's going to get confusing..... we've already got a current topic where people are discussing the student's riots. I'll stick my comment on there too http://www.warrington-worldwide.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=17335&start=15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 If those Royal bodyguards had used their guns to protect Chas and Camilla, the human rights Brigade would have been onto them like a ton of bricks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
safeway56 Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 If you thought that was a riot you've never been in Warrington Town Centre on a Saturday night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bazj Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 If those Royal bodyguards had used their guns to protect Chas and Camilla, the human rights Brigade would have been onto them like a ton of bricks! The Royal protection officers should be sacked for NOT shooting those that were attacking the Royal Car...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevofaz25 Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 Must be something wrong with a system that allows Welsh, Scottish and Northern Irish MPs to vote on English University tuition fees? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 If those Royal bodyguards had used their guns to protect Chas and Camilla, the human rights Brigade would have been onto them like a ton of bricks! The Royal protection officers should be sacked for NOT shooting those that were attacking the Royal Car...... I agree, the clue is in the job title, "Royal Protection Officers" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverlady54 Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 I put 'undecided' as well because although I don't think it is fair for the English to have to pay so much when the Scottish and Welsh don't, many of the students are demonstrating just to cause trouble. There is also the fact that many of them shouldn't be at university in the first place, as is demonstrated by the dismal showing of prospective teachers who can't pass their basic skills tests. If they can't pass those, why are they at university? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted December 12, 2010 Report Share Posted December 12, 2010 They are at University, cos the last Government promised that 50% of school leavers would go there. However, they soon discovered that this couldn't be achieved within a system of meritocracy based on the economic needs of the State; so they tinkered with the system to dumb down required qualifications and introduced a host of mickey mouse subjects to accomodate the intellectually challenged. The result: a trebling of student numbers and a corresponding increase in the overall costs to tax-payers. Meanwhile, the other 50% of school leavers were left to make their own way in life, many without the simple ability to read, write or even speak properly. As for the Scots and Welsh, I guess you'll find that the smoke and mirror exercise called devolution, allows them to pursue a different course based on funding provided by the English tax-payer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted December 12, 2010 Report Share Posted December 12, 2010 Isn't this what students do in between partying? Lot of street cred in trashing things and beating up on the police. They will get hours of bragging out of that. Arrest them, and get them street cleaning without any chance of going back into university. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted December 12, 2010 Report Share Posted December 12, 2010 Perhaps 2 years National Service would help, or service abroad in some kind of Peace Corps learning about the realities of real life? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 The latest nonesense in our dog's breakfast called devolution: Scottish Universities are planning to charge English, Welsh and Ulster students attending their UNIs. BUT, get this; it seems they can't similarly charge EU students due to EU law - beam me up Scottie! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 Sorry Obs.... can't beam you up; the Enterprise has been decommisioned in the austerity cuts!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted December 18, 2010 Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 Tried to find the story Obs but could not find it, as I have been working abroad it could have come and gone but I know that will not happen as we are part of the EU so Scotland would have to charge other EU students or non at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted December 18, 2010 Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 Not according to the news as broadcast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 you never look hard enough when it suits your pro Euro outlook on life not to Kije..... http://www.politicshome.com/uk/story/10777/ http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1339386/Scotland-raise-tuition-fees--English.html http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2010/dec/16/english-students-tuition-fees-scottish-universities http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/savings-and-banking/student-finance/article.html?in_article_id=519220&in_page_id=52 http://www.dailyfinance.co.uk/2010/12/17/scotland-fights-student-invaders/ http://www.thecourier.co.uk/Community/Higher-education/article/6341/english-fee-refugee-students-eye-up-scottish-courses.html The daily finance has an interesting take on the story; that English students will now flock to Scotland because of the fees rise here..... so if they charge the English more, they won't come and take all the places!! The Scotsman say they are intending to charge ALL foreign students more, however they are the only source stating this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 Thanks Baz It will never happen, As English Students could sue the Scots government. Under equality laws. makes a good headline though. but thats all it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 Equity Laws? Would they apply to free prescriptions too?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 No it would apply if one body of students was made to pay, when all other Eu students were not, as well you know Obs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 Simple, ALL students would be charged by the UNI; Jock students would have their fees paid by the Jock Parliament, as is the intention of the Welsh Parliament - it's called LOCAL DEMOCRACY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 Discrimination laws would kick in if English students were the only ones to pay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 There would be no "discrimination" on the part of the Unis as they would be charging everyone equally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 The latest nonsense in our dog's breakfast called devolution: Scottish Universities are planning to charge English, Welsh and Ulster students attending their UNIs. BUT, get this; it seems they can't similarly charge EU students due to EU law - beam me up Scottie Are english, Welsh and Ulster students not in the Eu, and if they are in the Eu would they not be entitled to the same rights as other students in the Eu. Are our students exempt from Eu law What is this Eu law Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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