harry hayes Posted November 21, 2010 Report Share Posted November 21, 2010 Some local authorities are asking permission to raise parking fines. IF we are desperately short of money I don't think that is a bad thing although I am only talking of public roads' The offences are almost always deliberate and I would even extend the argument to such other offences as (flagrant) no insurance; driving licence; etc. Shoot me down. Happy days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted November 21, 2010 Report Share Posted November 21, 2010 Do you drive Harry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Durnim Posted November 21, 2010 Report Share Posted November 21, 2010 Apparently the fines are ringed fenced and are supposedly to go road and transport improvements, but how bad would the state of our roads and transport actually be, if every car, lorry and van user obeyed the law. Where would the funds come from then, would they impose a car colour tax, red cars only use roads on Mondays etc, and if your car is dirty you get a environmental penalty? I agree with a spokesman who said that the parking fines are disproportionate and no real right to appeal, the process seems to be weighted in favour of the council, people who steal, mug, drive with out insurance or a license get a much lesser fine in comparison. OK, if you deliberately break the law, you get punished, however common sense should prevail on how much a fine should be, as ever, the car user is seen as a money pit, to solve all the woes of the road and travel network. Signs should be made clearer, larger and be more of them, not spaced put a few hundred yards to mislead or hidden round a corner! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry hayes Posted November 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2010 Yes I drive and have had two parking tickets on the public road. I took a chance and lost. Think I paid about ?30 each time. All I am saying is that if we have to raise money, deliberate offences seem to me to be a reasonable target. Might add that what caused me to post was an Irishman who had paid an awful lot in fines. However it was still cheaper than getting a permit to park in the same spot. Happy days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted November 21, 2010 Report Share Posted November 21, 2010 I had a parking ticket the day I passed my test. Parked in the road that was closed a few days later which ran down the left side of the market; where Time Square is now.... Never had another I don't think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted November 21, 2010 Report Share Posted November 21, 2010 The offences are almost always deliberate ..... Not always Harry, you should go round some of the car parks round here and in Lymm.... touch one white line in a bay with your wheel and the blueblooles ounce and you are 'nicked'. ?60 pound fine kindly reduced by half if you pay within the allotted number of days apparently. Only ever had two parking fines in 28 years of driving myself though ... one was years ago in Stockton Heaths Forge Carpark for being over the allotted time by 5 mins and another was in time square carpark where Baz got 'done' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry hayes Posted November 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2010 Ah yes, but as I said, was only talking about public roads. As an aside, I was told that a lot of churchgoers in Grappenhall village got tickets today - allegedly on lan believed to be owned privately. Happy days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 Simple, don't do the crime and you won't pay the fine - having said that, I've seen folk drive up, park on double yellows, and jump out and run to a shop. They know they're taking a chance, hence the run, and they are banking on getting back before the Bluebottles strike. Whether they actually pay their fixed penalties or not remains a mystery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 The offences are almost always deliberate ..... Not always Harry, you should go round some of the car parks round here and in Lymm.... touch one white line in a bay with your wheel and the blueblooles ounce and you are 'nicked'. Extra keen on the white lines in car parks then totally ignore all those that park on the double yellows in Lymm village itself, its an absolue joke. Went through there the other night about 7pm. Cars parked everywhere on double yellows and 2 CSPO`s stood on the corner next to Bacci`s totally ignoring the fact. Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 just got back from work and noted a car parked across the road from me sporting a nice yellow sticker. the blue meanies strike again. i got a parking ticket whilst parked outside my own house. the reason was that my parking permit was not clearly displayed.. it was on the shelf at the front but had slipped down a bit. the parking ticket itself was stuck directly over where the permit was so he must have seen it when he attached the ticket. despite this it did not show up on the photo that was taken as he was standing on a part of the road that was slightly lower than my car. had he stood level the permit would have been clearly displayed on the crime photo. very crafty these guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Durnim Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 just got back from work and noted a car parked across the road from me sporting a nice yellow sticker. the blue meanies strike again. i got a parking ticket whilst parked outside my own house. the reason was that my parking permit was not clearly displayed.. it was on the shelf at the front but had slipped down a bit. the parking ticket itself was stuck directly over where the permit was so he must have seen it when he attached the ticket. despite this it did not show up on the photo that was taken as he was standing on a part of the road that was slightly lower than my car. had he stood level the permit would have been clearly displayed on the crime photo. very crafty these guys Sorry to hear you got caught out, you would think that they would use common sense (or at least open their eyes wider) and use a system where they can use their little electronic box that they carry around their shoulders to cross reference the number plate against the council records and show up your permit and not give you a penalty, or may be they are on a bonus scheme to pay their wages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingnut Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 Spot on Sue. If we/I have forgotten our fishing licences, and we get checked by an EA officer. They now put our details into their hand held computer or what ever it is called, and cross reference our details on the spot. But the EA are a proffessional body, who use curtesy and common sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 ....... but tend not to clean and clear the natural drainage stream in the Town. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry hayes Posted November 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 I am told that if you are booked for a technical offence - pass slipped down type of thing - if you write them a nice letter - on the first occasion you may get off with it. To go back to one of my previous points, the average fine for having no insurance is less than ?300. How does that compare with being legal? Happy days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingnut Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 Obs. I'm not too sure about that one my friend. I think that The Environmental Agency and The Environment Agency are two seperate bodies. One deals with flood problems, illegal tipping, and a host of other things. The other deals more with fishing laws and by laws. I am not too clear on it so I stand to be corrected. Harry. I was an honouary NRA and EA bailiff before Brussels with their elf and safety act put the callabosh on it. Wearing of stab vests, carrying spray guns, and truncheons required a very high standard of training, and quite rightly so. But it did make life more difficult, if not impossible with the restrictions and demands that were made on us. However, there were no excuses and no grey areas. You either had a licence or you didn't. A section 25 would cost you ?80 to ?90 as a standard fine. And I dished a few of them out to the bank tramps. I have also had a ticket for being parked on a grass verge that had been tar macced over. It looked like a parking space, but it was on a by way. The nearest sign to where I was parked stating that it was a by way was approximately 1 mile away. On good advice I paid the fine and then wrote a very nice letter with help from a magistrate friend on mine. Didn't do me any good though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 It isn't compulsory to park illegally and incur fines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingnut Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 But it is compulsory to make sure a sign is displayed clearly and properly on this nice little earner for MBC. And not have it hidden away around a mile distant behind overhanging branches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 like this one you mean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 Could use one of those signs Sid! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 Give me one of those signs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Durnim Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 To save you all from a prison cell, I would not be surprised that if you placed this sign on your property for all to see you would be arrested for inciting violence? But if you insist on having this sign made, I can recommend a very good and inexpensive printer/sign maker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 Great sign I'm going to make one later for the muppets at work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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