Dizzy Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 Re Thursdays news.... When was 'Lumb Brook' Millenium Green renamed as 'Appleton' Millenium Green Here's hoping they find more Trustees before it's too late Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffrey Settle Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 Why don't you join them and make sure that it stays protected? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted March 22, 2008 Report Share Posted March 22, 2008 Originally posted by Dismayed: Re Thursdays news.... When was 'Lumb Brook' Millenium Green renamed as 'Appleton' Millenium Green :confused: Maybe at the point the Trustees decided they wanted Appleton Parish Council to take it over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted March 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2008 Originally posted by Painter Geoff: Why don't you join them and make sure that it stays protected? Might just do that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted March 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2008 Originally posted by Paul Kennedy: Originally posted by Dismayed: Re Thursdays news.... When was 'Lumb Brook' Millenium Green renamed as 'Appleton' Millenium Green :confused: Maybe at the point the Trustees decided they wanted Appleton Parish Council to take it over. But the PC haven't taken it over so it's still Lumb Brook Millenium Green. That's what it's registered as too. ...and even if the PC do take over responsibility of it why do they want to change it's name anyway :confused: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted March 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2008 Originally posted by Paul Kennedy: Originally posted by Dismayed: Re Thursdays news.... When was 'Lumb Brook' Millenium Green renamed as 'Appleton' Millenium Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 But its a big piece of grass. What is it? 10 acres? Does anyone use it apart from a short cut to Parr's wood? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 Odd, I thought I had posted a comment saying that the Charity Number 10786779 on the leaflet asking residents what they wanted to do is wrong....and that the name Lumb Brook Millenium Green Trust does not come up on the Charities Commission website. Can anybody help me with the correct number and/or name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 Originally posted by Dismayed: Originally posted by Painter Geoff: Why don't you join them and make sure that it stays protected? Might just do that Be careful, look at the accounts first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted March 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 Originally posted by Paul Kennedy: Odd, I thought I had posted a comment saying that the Charity Number 10786779 on the leaflet asking residents what they wanted to do is wrong....and that the name Lumb Brook Millenium Green Trust does not come up on the Charities Commission website. Can anybody help me with the correct number and/or name. It is on the charity commission website http://www.charity-commission.gov.uk/registeredcharities/showcharity.asp?remchar=true&chyno=1078679 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 Thanks Dismayed. Think my comment about the accounts is true. Interestingly if all of the Trustees resign and the Council refuses to take it over...what happens to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted March 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 Obviously I have no idea about their accounts (other than what's on the Charity Commission web site) but I'm sure they are far easier to do than the ones I have to do. Millenium Green : Funding comes in... and maintenance costs go out. Can't be that much going out other than Grass cutting? dog bins? odd bit of planting? maintenence on pathways maybe? and Public Liability Insurance. Sounds a doddle to me As for what happens if all the Trustees resign and then the PC wont take it on... I doubt that will actually happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 The PC needs to think long and hard before taking on such a liability. I notice one of the Trustees wishing to retire is also a Parish Councillor. The problem with many of these projects is that long term funding is never thought through or put into place. Maybe the Woodland Trust might be a more appropriate guardian of this site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted March 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 Originally posted by Paul Kennedy: The PC needs to think long and hard before taking on such a liability. I notice one of the Trustees wishing to retire is also a Parish Councillor. The problem with many of these projects is that long term funding is never thought through or put into place. Maybe the Woodland Trust might be a more appropriate guardian of this site. Why is it a liability Just takes a little bit of work, imagination and forward thinking.. there's so much more that can be done here I think I'm talking myself into a Trustee job here... my vision has been awakened Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 Think you might find there isn't as much grant money out there as you think. Lottery money has been diverted to 2012 Olympics. But good luck anyway, your enthusiasm will add greatly to the L B M G Trust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 Originally posted by Dismayed: Why is it a liability :confused: I'd say it's more of an asset. I understand that there are some substantial tree maintenance costs looming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted March 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 Not a worry as there are some very cheep 'tree cutters' around at the moment... Travellers I believe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 Don't tempt fate....they might move onto the site! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_b Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 As they just have opposite Tessa Jowells home! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 If she needs any advise, I am available for a consultation.....but it won't be good news. Guess her ?1 million is now worthless.....easy come easy go. Funny how in the artcle her estranged husband seems to think the local Council will be able to get it sorted. Welcome to the real world. Politicians such as Jowell are now reaping what they have sown. [ 24.03.2008, 15:21: Message edited by: Paul Kennedy ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted March 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 They apparently bought the agricultural land last year (wthout mentioning they were gyppos of course). They moved in on Good Friday when the council offices were closed which gave them time to set up a water supply, lay electricity cables, install a spetic tank and lay concrete pathways before the council enforcement blokes could act. Fast workers or what The gyppos are boasting that it could take upto 8 years to get them evicted of their own land Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 Fact that they probably paid over the odds for the land should have given the game away. The bloke at Grappenhall Ridge paid ?155,000 for agriculural land worth.....?6,000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_b Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 The bloke at Grappenhall Ridge paid ?155,000 for agriculural land worth.....?6,000. To be fair Paul,the land did have permission for smallholding use,together with water & electricity,so worth more than just agricultural land.Still doesn't make it right what happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 Ay, that's a good point regarding the value. [ 24.03.2008, 16:42: Message edited by: Paul Kennedy ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 Two Acre Park (it's less actually) in Walton village must have been a snip at ?6000 - was last of the old Walton Arms pub farmland and sold with a covenant against any buildings on site - after 2 x 4 years temp permission now part way through 10 years temp permission - guess when this comes to an end the travellers will get permanent permission and land will be taken out of green belt - it could never be economically restored to agricultural land as all the top soil was removed, and probably sold, years ago. [ 24.03.2008, 23:30: Message edited by: Pedro ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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