Gary Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 Sad to see the demise of the General Elliot at Croft on todays news page (my old watering hole). It appears to be the end of the road for many of the town's old pubs. Why? Drink Driving Laws? Smoking bans? The end of another place where human beings interact and meet. What next? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex padgate girl Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 That Gary plus the fact that there are so many new pubs open now and people cannot afford to drink like they used to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 The Elliott was a friendly,usually packed pub used as a base for football teams, dart teams and quiz teams and loads of drinkers. Good beer, good company and good food. The tenant/manager decided on a change of emphasis; close the taproom, hire a chef, open a restaurant and increase prices. The Horseshoe just down the road is booming. I think the next pub under threat since it is owned by the same 'shut em and build' company is the Comfortable Gill opposite Bents in Glazebury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 too expensive; can't smoke; can't drive etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 PLUS the breweries squeezing more and more rent out of the landlords. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyMac Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 My generation don't necessarily want to spend all night in the same pub, so we tend to visit places where there are several pubs in the same vicinity. The standalone suburban pub seems to have its work cut out competing with town centres, where there's more choice and variety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 They used to call it pub-crawling years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milly Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 They are closing because they don't fit with the breweries idea of what a pub should be. Pubs shouldn't be about socialising, it should be about fancy drinks and loud music don't you know! If the regulars don't like it as their local morphs into just another trendy establishment and start to leave, they close because they aren't making money. Woe betide anyone who suggests they should have left it as it was! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 You go girl - Milly I really like you - never met you but maybe next time I'm over we can meet. I like a person with common sense. It's nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 Then it looks like I'm well and truly woe betided then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P C Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 Hi, I can't speak for the Elliot, it's many years since I had a pint in there but pubs closing down is a national trend & I'm sure it's got nothing to do with the price of ale. The demise of many of the country pubs started in the 1970's with the enforcemet of the drink-driving laws. Many pubs then felt a drop off in custom as workers moved from weekly to monthly pay; I worked behind a bar from 1980 to 1985 & Thursday (pay day) used to be the busiest night of the week. I did read a report recently commenting on the amount of closures in Ireland - it said that the mainstay of pubs for many many decades was that a majority of fourty to sixty five year old men would spend 5 nights a week in the pub drinking 5 or six pints a time; that isn't the case any more & two or three regulars plus a handful of customers having a couple of pints a couple of nights a week doesn't even pay the electricty bill. I tried my hardest but seven years ago got married. My local has had 4 landlords since then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 Its a shame when a favoured place closes....but lets face it there was too many pubs in warrington. and the days of a quick pint after work, with yer flap cap and yer dog at the bar are long gone, on a possative note, there has been an increase in health clubs since the demise of the pub...maybe we are evolving for the better and we just lament memories as ill advised as they may be. I dont think we should mourn the days prior to the drink driving law. you may be one person who is alive now thanks to it...but you would never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 Probably as much to do with supermarkets selling the stuff, and sitting at home watching TV. as any thing else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 Yet another way that we can all be disconnected from each other - I enjoyed my nights( at the pubs) out when I was over there. I particularly liked the place that we went to Peter - for the Sunday dinner- I always seem to forget the name, but it was a nice friendly place just as Cinny Brow Farm is. But as you have said, super markets selling booze, the driving laws, the cost of booze at a pub - it all takes its toll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawson Posted October 7, 2007 Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 I enjoy a walk down to the pub but only now and then. I also think land prices have a lot to do with it. the village pub is worth more now for real estate. one of my Favourite pubs in UK is the Dog Inn at lower peover... The Sunday lunch is lovely freshly made lots of nice veggies.. Can't wait to get over next year... Debs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted October 7, 2007 Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 Mary. The Ram's Head in Grappenhall. Another problem is that the breweries charge such a lot that the old-fashioned pub rarely exists. They are either eating places, night clubs or boarded up. In other words, if you are not young, don't go out for a meal, they don't cater for you. You are "excluded". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy51 Posted October 7, 2007 Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 Are the breweries really bothered if pubs do shut? They are doing very nicely thank you from sales through supermarkets & off licences without having to maintain a building that is a pub.As for the drink after work i think the death knell for that was when towns like Warrington moved industry away from its origins & onto out of the way industrial estates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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