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So here we are then..... days after the start of the thread and after the interjection of the forums resident collaborator and we still don't have any decent advantages listed for being in the EU....

 

Guess that says a lot.

 

Or maybe Kije has gone away to try and find some advantages in the "Toga Times" or the "Sun.....but don't forget to cover up"

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Its just not worth it Baz, The working time directive is very good, Why do people in the UK work longer hours than most other European Countries and are less productive, Is it because they are lazy or is it lack of investment by Company owners on new machinery, Why is it easier to make someone redundant in the UK than any where else in Europe, If we had the full Workers rights over here that they have in the rest of Europe it would not happen, but the Tories bailed out on that bit, And because they did, when multi nationals are after off loading staff its always the UK that gets it as its cheaper to lose staff over here. The UK needs to invest in new equipment to compete, not work longer hours.

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So.... the only thing you can find good to say about Europe is something we haven't actually implimented..... and then in good old tradition; you blame the Tories from before 1997!

 

Good call Kije, just about sums up why you appear to be the only one in favour of Europe on the whole forum! :lol:

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but you are very afraid of being a minority in Europe :arrow:

 

????

 

What are you talking about? I don't like the idea of being in Europe regardless of whether we are a minority or not. In fact; seeing as we pump so much money into the edifice, we would be classed as a major player....either that or a cash cow!!

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Perhaps if voting in the european parliament and dishing out of the plumb jobs were based on the net financial contribution of each member then it might become an institution we could have some faith in.

 

As it stands, it's just become a mechanism for leeching prosperity and wealth from the productive countries to the bone idle ones, whilst at the same time giving increasing amounts of the decision making power to unelected pro-statusquo gravy-trainers.

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Kije, where do you get this minority-majority arguement from? The EU is a collection disparate States all with "interests" - THEIR "interests" - and every poverty stricken backwood State is lining up to get a piece of the hand out money, provided by the 3 NET payers. As for "majorities" I thought "a majority" of the French, Dutch and Irish voted against the Lisbon Treaty; the Irish effectively vetoing it, until the Brussels Mandarins made then vote again. Don't presume that only the Brits are opposed to the EU, their politicians, like ours, are disconnected from their people too. :wink:

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Still on the EU: The Court of Auditors has refused to sign off the EU Accounts for the 16th year in succession. They identify 5% errors in Regional Aid Budgets and the CAP, both dispersed through member states - presumably due to corrupt practises. UK taxpayers will be facing a 600million hike in contributions next year; and our donation to the ?60billion bale out fund of ?6billion, possibly being used to bale out Greece and Ireland. But, as a Member of the EU, I suppose "we're all in it together"! :evil:

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Still on the EU: The Court of Auditors has refused to sign off the EU Accounts for the 16th year in succession. They identify 5% errors in Regional Aid Budgets and the CAP, both dispersed through member states - presumably due to corrupt practises. UK taxpayers will be facing a 600million hike in contributions next year; and our donation to the ?60billion bale out fund of ?6billion, possibly being used to bale out Greece and Ireland. But, as a Member of the EU, I suppose "we're all in it together"! :evil:

 

So still no real advantages then...... Kije must have forgotten what they are because he has been so busy listening to the EU brainwashing!!! :lol:

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We are in it together, RBS one of our publicly owned banks, has alot of money invested in Irish debt, along with other UK State owned banks, If Ireland goes are banks will be looking for more handouts.

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...........and the EU advantages are? having to pay an extra ?600million a year into the corrupt edifice? Having to bail out other countries to the tune of ?6billion when we need the money ourselves?

 

Come on Kije; this is all wrong and you know it

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Some would say yes Kije..... Their country would bounce back at some stage

 

anyway, where are these EU advantages? All I can see now is a ?6billion bill on its way from Dublin and ?600milllion a year extra off to Brussels...

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Not just Ireland, seems they could be queuing up to default - Greece, Potugal and even Spain - perhaps we could sort a free holidays for Brits deal?! :wink:

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