Geoff Settle Posted December 12, 2007 Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 Lok Bill I'm quoting Geoff Clarke who is a conservationist and studies this stuff. A trench (not a hole) it may be cut out by navies but the wall can still be subject to erosion. Especially with the weight, volume and speed of ships going up and town from Pool to Salford and back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted December 12, 2007 Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 Geoff Correct me if I?m wrong but a trench is just a long hole and if you fill a hole with water, it doesn?t matter how much of the sides of the hole fall into the water, it can?t ever overflow. Didn?t you ever go to the beach as a kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Settle Posted December 12, 2007 Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 Come on Bill there is a great deal of difference between a hole and a trench and volume is a definite factor in the capacity and propensity to overflow, unless it's a bottomless pit which I believe the MSC isn't, nence the sluice gates. [ 12.12.2007, 08:46: Message edited by: Geoff Settle ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted December 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 Geoff, I would be interested to know just which traffic speeds down/up the MSC. The only boats I can think of are tugboats,which create a very small wash. The large boats cannot speed because they have to sail right down the middle for fear of hitting the sides, plus the fact that they have pilots on board who make sure that things are kept "shipshape". :confused: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Settle Posted December 12, 2007 Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 Bill, as soon as I get an email from Geoff I'll ask him, he should be contacting me about a 14 mile nature walk/run from the Silver Jubilee Bridge to Moore Nature Reserve and back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted December 12, 2007 Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 Geoff The only difference between a hole and a trench is that holes are generally unwanted while you have to pay for a trench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Posted December 12, 2007 Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 Originally posted by Bill: Geoff Basic law of physics say's you can't change the volume of a hole (or trench) from anything you can do inside it. Only by chucking stuff in from outside the hole do you change the volume. Bill what about breading ? physics...pah! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted December 12, 2007 Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 ... and here's me thinking Geoff was just putting this plank act on, for my benefit?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted December 12, 2007 Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 Originally posted by observer: When the Chair of the Enviromental Agency, appeals to Insurance Companies NOT to insure new houses built in the flood plain; perhaps developers, Councils and home buyers should take note?! When you are buying a house do the land searches etc show that your prospective new home is/is not built on a flood plane and at risk of flooding or is it something you would have to try and find out yourself ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted December 12, 2007 Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 It's something YOUR Solicitor supposed to do; but from the experiencees of others, it seems they don't do it very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted December 12, 2007 Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 When you can?t read the surveyors report because the inks all run and it gets delivered by a postman in a boat, that?s when you know there?s a problem. In the meanwhile, I?m more concerned that given the increasing number of claims for flood damage, insurance companies are increasing premiums in flood prone areas. As I understand it, insurance companies use exactly the same data that says Warrington is the seventh worst place in the country for flooding which means we?re probably all paying over the odds right now. I think the environment agency owe the people of Warrington an explanation. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Posted December 14, 2007 Report Share Posted December 14, 2007 maybe the statistics are based soley on Hawleys lane bridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted December 17, 2007 Report Share Posted December 17, 2007 Seems the Government commissioned a report on the Summer floods - and have received some fairly common sense advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted December 18, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 Allegedly, they are going to follow the recommendations.(until they realise the cost) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 Can't be short of cash - they've just given a couple of ?billion to the World Bank for foreign aid! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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