Dizzy Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 Just for info the Manchester Ship Canal water level was very very high indeed today with a very obvious water current and sandy appearance. Not something that is particularly normal for the canal. Water drains on the roads along the canal were overflowing and covering the road surface at various intervals and the same was seen on Chester Road along side the River Mersey. We have two canoes, one life jacket, one adult and two childrens wet suites, a body board and some goggles... should we buy more [ 08.12.2007, 22:42: Message edited by: Dismayed ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 Ay we're doomed....we're all doomed Cpl Fraser - Dads Army. Weather prediction for this weekend was gales and some flooding. Canal was high yesterday. [ 09.12.2007, 11:48: Message edited by: Paul Kennedy ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 If anyone has any doubts about the role of the Ship Canal in preventing the town flooding then take a trip down to Latchford locks today and see what it looks like when the sluice gates are open. I?ve just been down there this morning and I?ll try and put the pictures up but it may take a day or so. To get the true picture, try and imagine is Bridge Foot as it is today, full to the brim and then add to this the huge torrents of boiling white water currently passing through the locks. Scary! Incidentally, while I was there, a young lad who?d just finished his paper round approached me to ask if this was all normal. Poor kid thought the locks were failing and didn?t know who to tell. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 Where do we get the sand bags?! :confused: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 Ey Up! Looks like I've done even better than take a picture. Why the Mersey Never floods! Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 Wow great video Bill - thanks!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 Seems there may be a niche in the market for amphibious cars?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 Mary But do you know the funnyiest part is I was just trying to take a picture. I don't know how to work the new camera and got this video by mistake! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Settle Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 Good stuff Bill better are you trying out for Warrington.TV? - Just driven back alongside Vicky Park and it look high there as well, no flooding yet BUT when is the next High Tide? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 Don't want to sound alarmist Geoff but in just two days! And why is the name Great Sankey included on the tide tables for this area of the coast. [ 09.12.2007, 15:21: Message edited by: Bill ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 Originally posted by Bill: Ey Up! Looks like I've done even better than take a picture. Why the Mersey Never floods! Bill ??? Because its a Jaquzzi ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 If there is the predicted 7m rise in sea levels; where does that leave us in Warrington? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted December 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 Where do you get 7 metres from? :confused: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 It's the prediction based on current rates of polar ice melt (don't know how many years?); and the allowance I think planners are now planning for?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted December 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 So moving to Anglesey would not be recommended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 A hut on Ben Nevis might do?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little fella Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 What happens when the flood water gets to the ship canal? That is about 10 feet below the road level, surly the water runs into there and not just cross over??? With places like the old Walton lock will the mersey not over flow there first, fill up all the ship canal before it gets deep in land. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 Think there is flooding caused by sudden and torrential rainfall, where drainage systems can't cope, river systems fill up and overflow banks etc - the canal can mitigate that scenario. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 It?d take an awful lot of water to fill the ship canal from Warrington to Liverpool so I doubt we can ever flood. Even if someone forgot to open the sluices, the water level would rise a couple of feet and eventually go over the tops of the gates. So as I see it, we?re pretty safe from any major flooding and all of the environment agencies maps and predictions for floods in this area are seriously flawed. Incidentally, the video of the water passing through Latchford was with just one of the two gates open so you can imagine how it looks when both are open. On a lighter note, I also noticed that someone has posted shots of the wear at Woolston on UTube claiming to show the effects of all the rain we?ve had. Course the wear looks pretty much the same as it always does because upstream and just round the corner all the waters being diverted down the ship canal. [ 11.12.2007, 08:58: Message edited by: Bill ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Settle Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 Bill it does take a lor to fill but if ships areexceeding the speed limit the wash will erode the banks and a gap will allow water to escape and flood the surrounding area. So get your canoe ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted December 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 They do keep on top of things and repair the sides when needed, you know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted December 12, 2007 Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 The Canal is effectively a giant storm drain, which should function as long as sea level remains lower than the height of the banks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted December 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 I don't think they are the height that you mentioned earlier. But hey-ho, what can you do when nature takes over? The cycle has started, and will stay like that until the next phase.(Probably a mini ice age.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted December 12, 2007 Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 When the Chair of the Enviromental Agency, appeals to Insurance Companies NOT to insure new houses built in the flood plain; perhaps developers, Councils and home buyers should take note?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted December 12, 2007 Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 I?m a flippin mine of information these days on boring stuff like this. Geoff, Just to point out that the Ship canal was dug out i.e. a hole in the ground rather than having levies to hold back the water so wash away as much as you like, it still can?t flood, it?s a hole. And to Peter, the height of the bank is going to vary depending on where you are along it?s length due mainly to Manchester being higher than Liverpool. The bit from Latchford to Liverpool can seem to vary by up to seven feet due either to excess rainwater or deliberate filling by high tides. My head?s so full of junk like this it?s no wonder I can?t remember where the car keys are. Bill [ 12.12.2007, 06:55: Message edited by: Bill ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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