disgusted Posted October 31, 2010 Report Share Posted October 31, 2010 But isn't that "the plan"? To add to grid lock, until we all get fed up and stop using our cars? They'll have a bloody long wait then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted October 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2010 If my memory?s correct, they tried such methods in the USA many years ago with car share lanes and the likes only to find that people still preferred to put up with the longer queues rather than give up their personal transport. Visiting the same area recently and all these roads have now been widened to deal with demand but there were no restrictive rules and certainly no bike lanes. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianR Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 But isn't that "the plan"? To add to grid lock, until we all get fed up and stop using our cars? They'll have a bloody long wait then. Nah just until the MerseyGateway is bulit and Warrington comes to a halt due to the tolls and people avoiding the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgusted Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 But isn't that "the plan"? To add to grid lock, until we all get fed up and stop using our cars? They'll have a bloody long wait then. Nah just until the MerseyGateway is bulit and Warrington comes to a halt due to the tolls and people avoiding the same. It still won't stop people using cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianR Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 I agree but will essentially force people to take all sorts of short cuts. Wont make Warrington an attractive place to do any business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 Adrian is right, this charging to use the bridge has been estimated to cause a huge amount of extra traffic through Warrington and the higher the toll the more impact on our town. I saw some figures a while ago and they were not for the faint hearted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 Wont make Warrington an attractive place to do any business. Is it now???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 Adrian is right, this charging to use the bridge has been estimated to cause a huge amount of extra traffic through Warrington and the higher the toll the more impact on our town. I saw some figures a while ago and they were not for the faint hearted. So I guess we could be seeing all Warrington roads reduced to 5mph or less then Maybe 20 wasn't so bad after all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 Perhaps we'll need another bridge?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wahl Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 Does anybody know where all the traffic comes from, is going to and why it is doing the journey and how often? Surely this type of research must have been done (wishful thinking?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 Think you'll find they've had surveys upon surveys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 Slightly off Cockhedge topic, but not by much For you oldies on here who can remember it..... Do you think that the road infrastructure and traffic management is worse now at Bridge Foot since the new bridge was built and the road layout changed or was it better in the 50's/60's etc ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgusted Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 Through there again this morning, 8:45am, lights are off and no more than the normal 3/4 cars sitting on each arm. Back through again at 9:30 and still no lights, still no queues. Seems like the only time there has ever been queues is sicne the installation of these lights, and only when they are switched on. Pure genius these council wallahs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted November 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2010 This morning was probably the worst I've ever seen it. The traffic just wasn't going anywhere and several cars were doing U turns on a main road to escape the chaos. I watched in utter disbelief as one van driver mounted the kerb, just about squeezed between the signs then cut across the grass to get out via Sainsburys. Eventually we saw the lights go out and shortly after we got through realtivly easily. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haggis Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 Let's face it these lights are an abomination and some imbecile has to be responsible, if not for their installation then for the apparently random use. Why can't someone in the council have the guts to speak up and admit it. Warrington traffic is a joke at the best of times and these light have only added to the congestion, vehicle emissions and driver frustration. The number of times I've seen narrow misses when people have thought "sod it" and gone through after they have gone red, simply because of the unnecessary delays they cause. Our council's track record on traffic planning is beyond farcical so let's have someone on there do THEIR public the courtesy of listening and not simply deferring to some faceless beurocrat that might not even exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 Let's face it these lights are an abomination and some imbecile has to be responsible, if not for their installation then for the apparently random use. Why can't someone in the council have the guts to speak up and admit it. Warrington traffic is a joke at the best of times and these light have only added to the congestion, vehicle emissions and driver frustration. The number of times I've seen narrow misses when people have thought "sod it" and gone through after they have gone red, simply because of the unnecessary delays they cause. Our council's track record on traffic planning is beyond farcical so let's have someone on there do THEIR public the courtesy of listening and not simply deferring to some faceless beurocrat that might not even exist. Welcome to the forum Haggis - don't mince your words! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 welcome to the forum from me too Haggis... and might I just add a most excellent first post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted November 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 Agreed. Welcome to the grumpy old mens club Haggis, assuming your a bloke as I can't imagine a lady using that name Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 Excuse me Bill but when was this forum declared a 'grumpy' old 'MENS' club ... rather sexist and not very politically correct as there are grumpy women on here too you know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 No, the women moan. That is not being grumpy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 Awwww I thought I was being grumpy... I must try harder. Might have a drive via the cockhedge lights that should do the trick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted December 6, 2010 Report Share Posted December 6, 2010 Went through town at 8.20am today... sailed right past Cockhedge. No traffic, no queues.... lights were OFF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo Posted December 6, 2010 Report Share Posted December 6, 2010 Do you not think that less traffic because of the road conditions may have been a factor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted December 6, 2010 Report Share Posted December 6, 2010 Awwww don't spoil it Did wonder actually as it said Penketh/Sankey Way? and Great Sankey were gridlocked due to the snow they had this morning... although surely that would mean more people would have gone the Cockhedge Way to to avoid the jams. Who knows... I'll report back again tomorrow morning if I have to venure that way again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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