LymmParent Posted May 8, 2010 Report Share Posted May 8, 2010 It's happened before. Same thing happens as now, a pact to govern jointly that includes a majority of seats in the House. Counting second choices would make it worse - as the main race is red or blue, so most voters would place one first and the other third, with yellow as the second choice. Increasing the LibDem share rather than providing a clear majority..... I quite like the US system where we pick a leader in a straight vote and he/she forms the government whether he/she has the majority of seats or not. Saves the hassle if there's a tie! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted May 8, 2010 Report Share Posted May 8, 2010 Best leave it the way it is now eh ... ie the outright loser and underdog with the least amount of votes nationally suddenly becomes the main player and power force towards the final outcome ... depending on who's sweeties are the nicest of course Such power must be rather reawarding though ... you lose cos the electorate don't like your ideas but you win at the same time cos the 1st and 2nd place runners need you Should we not have a mini election now to see wether, due to the hung parliament (aren't they all still alive though ) we now want Lib Dem+Cons....... Lib Dem+ Labour.... Labour+Cons or NONE OF THE ABOVE THANKS !! Could have a similar local election mini vote too to save time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted May 8, 2010 Report Share Posted May 8, 2010 Sack the lot of them. Would we notice the difference? Probably be an upturn in our fortunes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted May 8, 2010 Report Share Posted May 8, 2010 Well they say you get the kind of Governments you deserve, and folk voted for the present mess - surprising, given that half of them were ripping the system off in the last parliament. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted May 10, 2010 Report Share Posted May 10, 2010 Folk didn't really vote for the exact present mess that we have though.... those who voted Tory did just that ie they voted 'tory' as did all the other voters. I'm sure there wasn't a box on the voting form saying 'Tory with a bit of Lib Dem'... or 'Labour with a bit of Lib Dem' Lib Dems were the party that lost big style but not to worry though eh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fugtifino Posted May 10, 2010 Report Share Posted May 10, 2010 Sack the lot of them. Would we notice the difference? Well, we've had about four days without a government and the sky hasn't fallen in yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LymmParent Posted May 10, 2010 Report Share Posted May 10, 2010 Sack the lot of them. Would we notice the difference? Well, we've had about four days without a government and the sky hasn't fallen in yet. Dubai are probably working on a bid..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted May 10, 2010 Report Share Posted May 10, 2010 fugtifuno: we have a Government still - and it's just been roped into giving ?10billion to bailout the Euro! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted May 10, 2010 Report Share Posted May 10, 2010 have we got that much? I thought we were broke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Durnim Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 Two things? 1. What is the white building called No 10 Downing Street? 2. On the photo of Cameron shaking hands with Liz, why is the clock on the mantel piece showing 2.40? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 This thread is entiltled "Who are you voting for?" Isn't it a touch out of date? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted May 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 This thread is entiltled "Who are you voting for?" Isn't it a touch out of date? Not now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 It'll do for the next election coming up any time soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 Sorry to disappoint people, but this might just work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 What's the betting?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Durnim Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 Just watched the Duck and Dive duo, sorry, Dave and Nick give a conference on the lawn of Number 10, very interesting comments on how the parties are to go forward. I feel optimistic that good policies will be introduced and common sense will prevail and if it doesn?t at least they have tried. It is a very brave decision they have reached, I can?t see any reason why it should not. It?s not the outcome I wanted, but it is better than the alternative. How long will it be before the two parties change their name to one and call it the ?Conservative Democrats? and then we can abbreviate it to the ConDem Party? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 If Nick doesn't get PR - I'm afraid he and his Party are finished - as I can't imagine Labour voters voting LibDem anymore - to keep the Tories in; niether the Tories proping them up with votes either! We'll see anyway - what the electorate want when they vote in a PR referendum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 Don't Labour voters vote Labour? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 Only in the real world Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 Errm, not always Eagle; in the real world, there's something called "tactical" voting; where a third party support (be it Lab or Con) vote Lib to keep the Tory or Lab from winning. This is the theory behind AV PR, whereby the Lib Dems will pick up the second preference votes to secure over 50% of the vote - so no wonder the Libs are gagging for it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 I disagree Obs, very few people tactical vote they vote for the party that they think best represents their interests. A very large number of Lib Dem will now have to decide if they are still the party they voted for, and to a certain extent so will Tory voters. If Labour have a clear out of richard heads and get back to socialism they will pick up some of the disillusioned. Parties like UKIP are now dead in the water and I think the BNP will be seen for what they are by some of their temporary voters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 If only that were the case; folk either vote genetically/tribally or tactically: voting for or against the Party most likely to win. No Party reflects public concensus, as they consider themselves to know better; hence we havn't returned to capital punishment, got out of the EU etc. When Bliar deserted socialism, the core Labour vote simply had nowhere to go, being left with a choice of 3 Tory parties, so either ceased voting or moved to "extreme" parties that were addressing their concerns. The dilema for the Labour party is; does it represent it's traditional core voters or does it seek power on the basis of moving to the centre in order to win the floating vote in "key" marginals? The reality of our electoral system is: that elections are won or lost in marginal constituencies; the rest returning a donkey if it's wearing the right rosette. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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