Gary Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 History in the making- did you manage to stay awake for the full 90 minutes. Apparently Clegg was the best "performer" by a country mile! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 I would agree with that Not much to choose between the other two Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 Fortunately I've got a life................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 Kept looking in, but it was the same old twaddle. Almost as boring as watching the poo. I wonder if Brown's idea of letting parents and children question the teachers and the police taking over other forces is the start of anarchy? Viva la revolution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 It would be comical if it wasn't so serious and sad; like three poker players (all without a decent hand, cos we're strapped for cash); we just heard bluff and counter bluff - on balance, Clegg came across better (but he ain't going to be PM); and Cameron clearly appeared to be trying his best to appear all things to all men; so I guess Brown will finish up as the least worst option in a hung parliament, that won't last 12 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 Interesting to see how much channel flipping went on, and indeed what the TV audience will be for the next two debates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 i was (un)lucky i had a domino match so missed it all rats perhaps they could get springer to chair the next one might liven it up a bit. "whoop whoop whoop whoop gordie gordie" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 After all the hype I actually watched it..... got a bit bored though and I spent more time watching their body language and how they were 'interacting' with each other Have to admit though overall Clegg came out on top in my opinion too and the one that I thought would do the best didn't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
safeway56 Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 Cameron was exposed as the snake oil saleman that he is. He's only had one proper job(which his Dad got for him) and that was a spin doctor for a failed televison company and boy, did it show last night.I've said it since the day I clapped eyes on him...he's an empty suit. Incidentally, is it legal for a boy who has yet to start shaving to become PM of this great nation ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 The problem with Dave is, that he's another Bliar - all style no substance - I watch the faces and body language of his Tory faithfull at one of his speeches - they're using him as a passport to success (?), but there's clearly no belief in him or the new bulls**t he's now spouting. We've simply not got a politician with the gravitas and the vision to meet the challenges we're facing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Durnim Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 Hello everyone! I may be a little sad, but I did enjoy watching the programme and will watch the other two being shown on BBC and Sky. Listening to the news programmes I think there is too much psychoanalysis going on. I would have thought it is more about policy and actions than mannerisms? On another note regarding the right to vote, I do think people should vote with every chance they get, after all many people have died in various wars to give us this democratic right, and to change what is wrong! I have an idea, and it may have been thought of before, it goes like this, if all the people who are eligible to vote do not vote, then these votes should be split equally to all the parties who are up for election, just an idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 Incidentally, is it legal for a boy who has yet to start shaving to become PM of this great nation ? William Pitt "the younger" became PM at 24. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 Have you thought Sue, that the reason many folk don't vote, is precisely because they don't think any of the three main Parties are worth a light, and a vote for any minor Party is totally wasted under our current electoral system. Even the LibDems, with a 6% swing, couldn't dislodge the big two from their "safe" seats. Brown, in order to suck up to the liberal vote, is now promising a referendum on electoral reform, BUT: they are proposing the Single Transferable Vote system, which may just make life easier for the LibDems, but no one else. There are two differing themes in election:- 1) is a requirement for "geographical" representation - as with a "constituency" MP, for which first past the post may suffice. The other is:- 2) a requirement to represent "in Government" the thematic policy aspirations of the Nation as a whole - thus allowing a vote for any Political Party to count proportionately in terms of representation. This could be achieved, through the modernisation of the House of Lords, by making it a fully elected "executive" chamber of 100 seats, elected on a Party List basis in direct proportion to the percentage of votes cast at a General Election. Each Party would thus field a "list" of prospective Ministers to form a cabinet (Government), which would seem preferable to appointing(not electing) them via the House of Lords, as is the case at the moment. The added bonus being, that we could finally bring our system into the 21st century, by seperating the legislature (the Commons) from the executive (the Lords or Senate). This of course, won't happen, as it would undermine the monopoly position of the main two Parties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Durnim Posted April 17, 2010 Report Share Posted April 17, 2010 Observer, I was just trying to say that if someone who did not vote for what any reason, then they knew that there vote would be place to a party up for election on there behalf, they may be promted to come out to the polling station and vote for them selves? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 17, 2010 Report Share Posted April 17, 2010 Why not just compulsory voting as in Australia? My point is, there is no point - cos our anachronistic "democratic" system is less democratic than it could be - it supports and perpetuates a two Party monopoly - and those two Parties ain't going to give up on that monopoly for as we know, Party interests come before everything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Durnim Posted April 17, 2010 Report Share Posted April 17, 2010 Observer, solutions to problem on getting people to vote, does not have to be complicated, with your example of the Australian voting system, seems a good idea to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 17, 2010 Report Share Posted April 17, 2010 Yes BUT they still need something (policies) they are prepared to vote FOR: eg. majority public opinion favours: exiting the EU; tougher controls on immigration; tougher stance on crime and punishment - which None of the three main Parties come anywhere near providing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted April 17, 2010 Report Share Posted April 17, 2010 Seems the Germans may be considering leaving the Euro currency...... maybe my prediction of a total EU collapse may be closer than even I could have hoped for!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted April 17, 2010 Report Share Posted April 17, 2010 OK as long as we go with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 17, 2010 Report Share Posted April 17, 2010 Clearly we need to Mark your words Baz, to be Frank I just hope your right! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted April 18, 2010 Report Share Posted April 18, 2010 Only Richards like Kije seem to think this is the right track for the UK! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 18, 2010 Report Share Posted April 18, 2010 problem is Baz, Westminister and Brussells are full of such Richards! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted April 22, 2010 Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 Is the second part of the battle debate on tonight.. thought it was but I cant find it on any channel or my digi tv listing guide. Perhaps it was on earlier and I missed it... not to worry eh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted April 22, 2010 Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 it was on sky news. (Channel 082 on freeview) It was just as nauseating as last week so I went and did some plumbing in the garage!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted April 22, 2010 Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 Why sky news... why not a normal channel. I did eventually find it just as it was going off.... it was on channel 123 Sky News (virgin) but called 'The Lion Man' Glad I didn't miss much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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