observer Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 Seems a single mum has won a case for home leave to take care of her sprog. Just imagine if this surreal state of affairs had existed in 1940, we'd all be speaking German now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 As is often the case, there is more to this matter than meets the eye, albeit absurd that there should be any payout. Given that the UK is skint, maybe there should be no state compensation payouts of any sort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
safeway56 Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 *Jump in that trench soldier !!* *Are you kidding ? The last time I did that I broke a nail and also ruined my new hairdo* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 Sgt: "what's that moving in your kit bag Ms Jones?" " Sorry Sarg, I couldn't get a minder for the kid"! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 At the moment Women don't serve on the front line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 At the moment Women don't serve on the front line I rather think that Corporal Sarah Bryant was on the front line in Afghanistan when she, and three other soldiers, were blown up and killed in their snatch Landrover, on 17th June 2008. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inky pete Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 The whole concept of a "Front Line", behind which lies relative safety, is more than a little bit dated these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 Seems this surreal situation is merely part of an even more surreal background: this female "soldier" was recruited by the very Armed Forces tasked with defending this Country against foreign invasion, in a foreign country and isn't a British citizen - so instead of entering this country under a lorry, it appears they can now enter in a British Army uniform! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 There are 6,960 Commonwealth soldiers in the Army, why do they attract your bile? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egbert Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 The whole concept of a "Front Line", behind which lies relative safety, is more than a little bit dated these days. I think it has been out of date since around 1940 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inky pete Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 1st June 1915. First Zeppelin air raids on London. Or guerilla warfare to disrupt the supply and communications lines of a larger army. First practiced effectively by the Spanish against Napoleon around 1808. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 Cos Eagle, unlike the employment of "Commonwealth" soldiers in the past who (with the exeption of the Gurkhas), fought as "allies" with clearly marked insignia; we now have a situation where every waif and stray from foreign parts is hired for pay - bit like the premiere league I guess! Merely proves that we havn't been paying decent enough wages to attract citizen volunteers - alas the economics of the times - seems cheap labour applies to everything! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 I think you will find Obs she comes from one of our former colonies You never miss a chance to spread your mis-truths, is it in the vain hope someone might beleive your lies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 At the moment Women don't serve on the front line You never miss a chance to spread your mis-truths hmmmm pots and kettles springs to mind! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 Women do not serve on the front line in the British army Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 Errrm Kyje; what's "former colonies" got to do with anything; "FORMER" = past tense; they are not "British" as in the British Isles and are thus foreign. On this basis, our Army is now basically one large "foreign" legion, employing cheap mercenaries - such is the state of the nation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 The Country she comes from is part of the Common Wealth, They have always been alound to join, Whats your problem Obs not enough white faces for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 nope - the boats full. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 Any other ideas on how to fill the ranks of the Armed services Obs Heres another idea when you reach 65 we could deport people to Spain and so make room for a tax paying immigrant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 Can I volunteer to be deported to Spain when i reach 65? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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inky pete Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 If you can't do a job, you shouldn't be in it. Her child care arrangements are her problem, not the MoD's. What would have happened if she'd been posted abroad? or needed to turn in to work at short notice due to a national emergency? Her claim for what would have been ALL of her earnings if she had stayed in the Army for 22 years is patently ridiculous. That assumes that she actually WOULD have stayed in (few do!) and that now she'll never work again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 Well the real motivations are being shown in the outcomes: from a claim for ?100,000, which has now blossomed to ?500,000; to the fact that she's quit the Army - will she be returning to her country of origin? btw Kyje, I'm sure, as a single mum, the tax payer will now be looking after her, incl pensioners - who still pay taxes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LymmParent Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 She got ?17K. Tribunal said that she had been discriminated against - although I'm not clear whether that's about the childcare issue or other incidents. No compensation for loss of earnings, as they ruled she'd not tried hard enough to find other work. She'd also turned down an alternative job in the Army, that had childcare facilities on site. Both sides are daft. She thinks she should be above the law and allowed to import relatives to care for her child, and she takes a job that's bound to be problematic on that score. The MoD hired a single parent for a job where there's no leeway at all for the inevitable occasions where the child has to come first. Now they've wasted a load of money arguing and even more settling the argument. Like there's not enough for the Army to do... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inky pete Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 If the MoD had refused to hire a single mother then they'd have been wide open to a sex discrimination case for that alone. Since the child was living with relatives abroad when she joined the army, and she only brought it into the country at a later date, it's not clear whether the army even knew when they hired her that she was a mother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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