Lt Kije Posted June 6, 2009 Report Share Posted June 6, 2009 Formed in 1982 by John Tyndall, one of Britain?s foremost post-war nazis, the BNP spent much of the 1980s in the shadow of the larger National Front. The NF was to split quite dramatically, and, torn by internal conflict, left a space on the far right for the BNP to fill. In 1985, one of its main activists, Tony Lecomber, was sent to prison for trying to blow up the offices of a rival organisation. He was also caught with hand-grenades. Despite his attempted terrorism, he remains number two in today?s BNP. During the early 1990s much of its activities were focused on East London, where, in 1993, it secured a council by-election victory in the Tower Hamlets ward of Millwall. The price to pay was a massive rise in racial attacks. In the three months after the election, racial incidents rose by 300%. At about the same time the BNP spawned the violent Combat 18 as its security force. . C18 later emerged as a nazi terror group, responsible for a letter bomb campaign and a series of murders. C18 thugs, made up of football hooligans and nazi skinheads, protected BNP meetings and minded BNP leaders during party marches In 1993 the BNP became increasingly embarrassed by Combat 18 violence. After its victory in Millwall it decided it no longer needed the street thugs and banned dual membership. However most BNP members ignored this plea. In September 1995 four of the five London BNP branch organisers attended a C18 meeting. The Millwall seat was lost eight months later. The BNP lost momentum, with younger members going over to C18. Tyndall reversed the slide by adopting a more hardline strategy, which included bringing veteran US nazi leader, William Pierce, to London. William Pierce Pierce penned the evil tract, The Turner Diaries, which inspired the Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh and the London nailbomber David Copeland. Copeland learnt his politics in the BNP. After Nick Griffin became leader in 1999, the BNP began to adopt a more respectable image. It campaigned on rural issues and, publicly at least, watered down some of its more racist policies. However most of the key BNP personnel have remained the same. And it was only one year before Griffin became leader that he received a suspended prison sentence for inciting racial hatred. In 2002 the BNP won three council seats in Burnley and averaged 28% of the town-wide vote. In Oldham, the party came second in four of the five wards it contested and took an average 27%. Across the country the BNP averaged 16% in the council wards it contested, easily its best election results in its history. It is important remember that it challenged less than 1% of all seats up for election. But since then, they have added two more council seats and this looks set to grow in May. Taken from www.stopthebnp.org.uk/uncovered/pg02.htm Take alook at the pictures on the sight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted June 6, 2009 Report Share Posted June 6, 2009 A bit late putting that on here. the elections have finished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted June 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2009 I thought about that, but I thought I would let people vote first, did you go on the link, nice picture of the founder with a Swastika, I just hope all that did vote for them are now embarrassed, and reflect on what they voted for especially today when we have such a significant anniversary 65 years after D day. At least those people new who the enemy were I wonder what they would think if they new people over here were now voting for what the gave there lives to defeat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted June 6, 2009 Report Share Posted June 6, 2009 The problem is that people only read the headlines and look at the coat of paint. Not many look for the cracks beneath the surface. I've said before that the BNP bumph is very seductive, and would appeal to those who don't know the history( like the 25yr olds etc} and believe everything they are told. Some of us remember Combat 18 and the other extreme groups and know that the leopard doesn't change its spots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rifles Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 As already stated, people so not look at the cracks below the surface. Although i must point out other parties are the same if not worse when it comes to be criminals. Here is a few:- Tony Lecomber ( BNP ) Lecomber was convicted for criminal damage in 1982, offences under the Explosives Act in 1985, and was sentenced to three years' imprisonment in 1991. Think he blew himself up in the process. Nick Griffin ( BNP ) In 1998, Griffin, along with Paul Ballard, was convicted of violating section 19 of the Public Order Act 1986, relating to incitement to racial hatred.He was convicted and received a nine-month prison sentence, suspended for two years, and was fined ?2,300. Martyn Locklin ( LAB ) Convicted on 8 counts of rape and indecent assault on teenage boys in 2001, and jailed for 15 years (reduced to 12 on appeal). Keith Rogers ( LAB ) Convicted, fined, and placed on the sex offender?s register in 2003, after downloading over 2,000 hardcore child porn photos on his computer. Terry Power ( LAB ) Forced to resign in 1999 after being arrested and charged with sex attacks on teenage boys. Mark Tann ( LAB ) Convicted and jailed for 15 years in 2002 for sexually assaulting a girl of 9, and raping a 4-year old girl on 2 separate occasions. Jason Phillips ( UKIP ) Has been sentenced for possessing indecent photographs of children.Has now changed his name by deed poll after converting to Islam to Abdullah Nasser Jihad, will now have to sign the sex offenders register for five years Ashley Mote ( UKIP ) A British member of the European Parliament (MEP)who has been found guilty of 21 charges of deception by falsely claiming benefits. Michael Powell ( CON ) Convicted and jailed for 3 years for downloading hardcore child porn. Alan Burkitt ( CON ) Convicted of pimping in 2007, after he admitted prostituting his girlfriend (who had an IQ of just 52) for ?50 a time. Cllr Burkitt, originally elected as a LibDem councillor in 1996 before defecting to the Tories 3 years later, was given a suspended 1-year jail sentence. Roger Talboys ( CON ) Convicted and jailed for 6 years for multiple sex attacks on children. Michael Morris ( CON ) Convicted and put on probation for 2 years in 1996, for the indecent assault of another man, which was captured on CCTV. Forced to resign from his job as a school bursar, although the `Party of family values` Conservatives were quite happy for him to continue as a councillor. Sir Ian Horobin ( CON ) Party Cabinet Minister? Convicted and jailed for 4 years for indecency in 1952, after paying young boys for sex. Justin Sillman ( LIBDEM ) Convicted and jailed for 2 years for sexual abuse of young boys. Frank Beck ( LIBDEM ) Received a total of 5 life sentences in 1991, after being convicted on 17 counts of indecent assault, buggery, rape, and actual bodily harm. Beck was the ringleader of an organised paedophile ring operating within children's care homes in the Leicestershire area. Although never proven, it was alleged at the time that Beck was also involved in the murder of children, and the production of `snuff` movies. Bill Chadwick ( LIBDEM ) Charged in 2003 with: Making an indecent photograph of a child, as well as inciting another man to commit the kidnap, rape, torture, and murder of a schoolgirl. Eventually convicted on 18 counts of making indecent images of children. Chadwick?s gay lover - Alan Valentine, was also a Lib-Dem councillor who has since committed suicide. Trevor Morgan ( LIBDEM ) Convicted and jailed for 9 months in 2003 for unlawful wounding/dangerous driving. After attacking an elderly woman?s Golden retriever dog by throwing pepper in its face, he then seriously injured a neighbour ? 57-year old Barbara Johnson, with his car as she tried to stop him escaping. Manzur Hussain and Mozaquir Ali ( LIBDEM ) Convicted and jailed for 18 months in 2007 after being found guilty of ballot-rigging related to local elections in the towns Danehouse ward. This is just a very small portion of the people who represented the various parties. The seriousness of a lot of the crimes will obviousley resulted in their expulsion from their parties. The question is , would they still be there if they had not of been caught? If the argument is for current Mp's , councillors or representatives then im sure there are a lot more than we think. So, as previousley stated, not many do look that far into ANY party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 Jack Straw the druggie springs to mind. In fairness to Jack Straw, when he was the Student Union leader he was anti drugs, and that I understand remains his position, indeed when he found that his son was dabbling in drugs a couple of years ago, he took him to the police. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rifles Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 Yes very true. It was his son and as you say he was anti-drugs. Cannot remember rightly but didn't Jack Straw's brother get prosecuted for something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 Indecent assault on a 16 year old girl back in 2000. Fined and put on the sex offenders register. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy51 Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 Interesting parallels really...Britains shambolic economy although not quite as bad as the economy of 1930's Germany which allowed the Nazi's to be elected via the racial trump card with devastating results...BNP & National Socialist Party both magnets for sexual deviants & misfits of society. They won't be getting my vote! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 rifles , since you now admit that Jack Straw was not a druggie, do him the courtesy of removing the reference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 Think you'll find that any and all political Parties are magnets for moral deviants, and as the Telegraph has revealed, a majority of petty thieves and compulsive liars - so glass houses and stones spring to mind! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rifles Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 Indeed i will Eagle. As other people have said, all parties have deviants criminals. Just some more than most Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted June 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 I agree with most peoples points The point I was trying to make, Is it not a sad reflection on the State of our political system that on such a poignant anniversary people voted for the very thing our soldiers died saving us from It is up to all of us what ever our political persuasion, To keep there memory alive and to make sure that they did not die in vain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 Do you not already think they died in vain? I would imagine that most of the lads died fighting for King and Country. For a free and independant Great Britain, Empire and Commonwealth. By allowing the country to become part of an organisation like Europe; we have already sullied the memory of those that died. I had the same conversation with old Frank in the Hoop & Mallet pub a few weeks ago. Frank was a veteran of Pegasus Bridge; having landed in a glider on the early hours of D-Day; capturing the bridge and losing some of his mates in the process. He is in Normandy at the moment and goes every year without fail. He is a proud old man who wears his blazer and medals with pride. He fought to free Britain from the tyrany of Germany and is disgusted the way this country has been "Handed to the Krauts and the Frogs" as he puts it...... He has got a point!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 Which makes me wonder WHY the pro-europe lot think it is such a wonderful idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted June 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 He has the right to his opinion, I go out for a drink with some one who also fought in the War, and he is pro european Baz, He is pro european because he thinks its the only way to stop it happening again So I take it you were not filled with discussed at the pictures of the BNP in nazi uniform Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 So I take it you were not filled with discussed at the pictures of the BNP in nazi uniform Not particularly Sgt to be honest. Prince Harry has worn one and I am still a Royalist. I am not particularly enamoured by the BNP; they have things that I do agree with but then they have more that I don't. I don't believe that we should be in Europe.... that is my opinion based on what I see and read and hear. Corruption is rife in the EU parliament. Fiddling and theft is rife and to be honest why the hell do we need 736 Euro MPs as well as our own 600 and odd Westminster ones? Each one of these scumbag leeching politicians costs the tax contributions of nearly 60 workers paying ?4,500.00 each in tax a year. That is over 76500 people a year just to pay the salaries and expenses of the MP's and MEP's Bloody incredible that anyone actually thinks this is all a good idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 You just don't "get it"Kyje; there are no "no go" areas in politics, and it's an arrogance to suggest there should be, that's what democracy supposed to be about - all comers put their views before the electorate and the electorate choose whoever@s policies meet their concerns. The fault lies with the main stream parties, who fail to listen to the concerns of the people - EG; the majority of folk want us to leave the EU - the main Parties are locked into it: the majority of folk want a freeze or tightening up of immigration - the main stream parties remain in denial over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted June 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 I think if you are British and a jew you would not agree with that Obs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 I think if you are British and a jew you would not agree with that Obs Blimey Sgt; you must have long arms to be able to reach the bottom of that barrel! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byrdy Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 No mension of the UKIP leader,Nigel Farage,who claimed 2million pounds in expenses.that's on top of his ?64,000 a year salary.Nice work if you can get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 So your prepared to accept "democracy" Kyje, just so long, as it delivers the results that YOU want; arrogance typical of the main stream politicians of today. Well, IF Nick Griffin is true to his word, he'll be unleashing his researchers round the libraries and data bases of the EU, in a "Telegraph style" exposure of gravy train corruption- so let's hope he does - you can hear those delete buttons being pressed and those shredders working overtime already! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted June 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 Not at all Obs as usual you got it wrong I am against any party that promotes hatred of a people for there colour of there skin You are obviously not, The only conclusion is you agree with there policies What does that make you Take a good long look Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 Not at all Obs as usual you got it wrong I am against any party that promotes hatred of a people for there colour of there skin You are obviously not, The only conclusion is you agree with there policies What does that make you Take a good long look But you are saying how wrong it is that Griffin was elected (by due democratic process with 131,000 votes behind him) and yet can see no wrong with having elected members going to Europe that fit into your idea of who should be there..... That is a bit double standardy Sgt. Lets hope Griffin does expose the corruption.... can you imagine the votes him and his party will get then if he exposes that the Tories, Lib Dems and the few labour ones that are left, are milking the system as they do here?? He will have 20 seats in the next one if he does. If the BNP are clever, they will take this opportunity to smear and discredit the main stream parties wherever they can now; just like they have had done to them for the past 20 years.... Watch this space Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 Baz, are you assuming that every MEP is on the take and that Griffin will be the only one who is not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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