observer Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 As our boys and girls are brought home from Iraq; time to weigh up the pros and cons of the exercise: the cost in lives, tax-payers money and our standing in the world; and the question as to whether we are safer now than before the illegal invasion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 Simple answer. NO!!!! We went from on the periphery to a main player and thus a target for extremists/fanatics. And the Iraqi's should be asked are they any better off now that there is no one keeping order. Will it become another ethnic war like Yugoslavia, and the West have to go back in? And those who got us involved with doctored information, should be punished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted May 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 Well we agree on that one Pierre! Pre-invasion; there were no terrorists in Iraq (if we discount Saddam!); now it's full of competing factions ripe for (as you say) a civil war following the US withdrawal. It has strengthened anti-US/UK sentiments throughout the Arab world, acting as a rallying cry for muslim extremists and strengthened the influence of Iran in the region. No doubt (as we said at the beginning of this venture); The outcome will probably see the Country break down into it's three ethnic constituencies: the Kurds in the north - providing the potential for friction with Turkey; the Sunnis in the centre - funded by the Saudis; and the Militias in the south - falling into the sphere of influence of Iran. Not sure we'll have the will or resources to ever intervene in the same way again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 I was against us going in the first place my view has not changed Having said that our armed services did not have any choice, and I supported there efforts once there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted May 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 Well that's a fairly liberal LibDem position! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted May 3, 2009 Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 Works for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted May 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 Well it would, you being a LibDem! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted May 3, 2009 Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 Do Lib-Dems work? They don't in Latchford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted May 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 Well the Labour ones don't work elsewhere - so where do you go from there?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 Revolution? Bring back CAP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted May 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 The reality Pierre, is that the vast majority of folk never have to use the services of a Councillor; indeed, it's a sign of a good Council if their concerns/problems can be dealt with by Council systems and staff. Not sure what the Common Agricultural Policy has to do with this?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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