observer Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 The day of the European Election: a chance for folk to put their votes where their mouths are; knowing they can actually vote on issues rather than along tribal lines, and knowing that their vote will count under a PR system. So for those who want to escape the clutches of "political union"; from a set-up that costs the British tax-payer ?40million per day; makes 75% of our laws, denies us the right to protect ourselves from EU immigration or negotiate trade agreements unilaterally with the wider world, costing us 8% of our GDP; and has the stench of a political gravy train at it's core - there are only two euro-sceptic Parties to vote for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 That will be UKIP and the BNP then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 I understand that political pundits are predicting that the UK turnout will be the lowest in the EU. In 2004 I seem to recall that the turnout in Warrington was about a third. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 I understand that political pundits are predicting that the UK turnout will be the lowest in the EU. In 2004 I seem to recall that the turnout in Warrington was about a third. Â As high as that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 Thus demonstrating Paul, just how thick the majority of folk are: this is an opportunity to give all the main Parties a kick up the backside, to show dissapproval with the lot of them, and the majority desire to escape political EU union, without upsetting tribal patterns in the UK elections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 What am I supposed to be voting for... just got two polling cards through the door telling us to vote and that has been it  Don't even know who we can vote for so can't even google them  Ok so I must be more stupid than you all thought I was Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 You'll vote for who you believe to be the least worst option, no doubt - but there are only two Parties on the sheet committed to getting us out of the EU - UKIP or BNP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 What am I supposed to be voting for... just got two polling cards through the door telling us to vote and that has been it  Don't even know who we can vote for so can't even google them  Ok so I must be more stupid than you all thought I was  My guess is that you will get party literature through your door during May, with a final flurry just before June 4th.  If last time is anything to go by the ballot paper will have plenty to choose from, mainly parties but the odd independent so that would be the only individual you could vote for, parties have a list system and seats are allocated according to the % vote that they get, the parties then award the seats to their candidates on the list....so for example Robert Atkins is number 1 on the Tory list and is therefore guaranteed to remain an MEP. The pundits seem to think that the Conservatives will have 4 seats, Labour 2 L/Ds 1 and either UKIP or BNP 1. Time will tell as they say.  Nominations close on 7th May, so the full list will be available shortly afterwards.  Here is a useful website for you:  http://www.northwestvotes.gov.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Hope folk won't be voting to Ben Dover at Dover?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 Is it BNP or UKIP for observer  Its Liberal Democrats for me, I can not accuse you of not being open if I am not being, since you opened this string I think it is relevant to ask  You've got to wonder if any one will own up to voting for the BNP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 I guess that all depends if we have a UKIP candidate around here doesn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 If either BNP or UKIP do get in I hope they realise that Observer will then view them with the same contempt as the main parties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted May 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 Not quite Eag; they'll be on probation! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 Well I haven't got a clue who to vote for as I've never heard of any of their names  Will they all personally do door-to-door canvasing so we can all watch their body language when questioned and look into their eyes to see if they are telling lies  PS... just for the record, so I don't appear to be being secretive, I would have voted for Mr Dover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 Obs  Are you going to tell us who will get your vote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted May 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 I've told you - I'll be voting for one of the anti-EU Parties; not quite decided yet, which one will cause the biggest splash! Diz: the names don't matter, cos it's done under PR on a Party list system, so all you need to do is vote for the Party you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 13 to choose from, and here they are:  http://www.northwestvotes.gov.uk/downloads/StatementofPartiesandIndividualCandidatesNominated.pdf  BNP Christian Party "Proclaiming Christ's Lordship" Conservative Party English Democrats Party Jury Team Liberal Democrats No2EU: Yes to Democracy Pro Democracy: Libertas .eu Socialist Labour Party - (Leader Arthur Scargill) The Green Party The Labour Party UKIP Francis Apaloo - Independent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 I didn't realise Goonerman was a candidate and no Taxi team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted May 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 Pity - no anti-corruption Party! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 Pity - no anti-corruption Party! Â as if.... all the pigs have been grounded due to swine flu Obs! Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted May 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 Perhaps that Bell fella, could start a "white suit" Party?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 Seems that the voting may be a bit low round this area. Most people I know have said the threw their EU voting forms straight in the bin cos they have either given up or don't understand what it's all about  I fall into the same bracket but I've kept my card just in case I see the light Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 Good news is that you don't need the card to vote. Â PS WBC have excelled this time, and got the cards out in plenty of time. Â PPS It will be interesting to see how much literature the parties put out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 Seems that the voting may be a bit low round this area. Â And you live in one of the traditionally higher turnout areas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted May 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 It's ironic, that folk can't even be bovvered to vote at what is probably the most meaningfull election and where every vote counts. The EU decides on over 75% of our laws; and has a scale of political corruption at it's centre that makes Westminister look like a creche. With the majority of Joe Public now being euro-sceptic (hence Brown denying us a referendum); the opportunity presents itself for a massive rejection of euro-politics by voting for anti-EU Parties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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