asperity Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 Here's the Russian take on Global Warming: http://tinyurl.com/dftz8r Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 Re the "Gulf Stream" arguement: IF we were to lose the warming effect of the Gulf Stream, and thus experience similiar weather to Canada or Moscow - are you saying that no one lives through Winters in Canada or Russia? Minus 50oC - we just have to learn to adapt - and perhaps prepare now for that eventuallity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 It is mind-boggling to think that man can change nature. Nature will do what it wants, when it wants. Pollution is destroying the planet as "WE" know it, but the planet will still keep evolving. The biggest danger is the sun cooling down or exploding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 I think we've got 50 million (or is it billion?) years before our sun explodes into a super-nova; gives plenty of time to "boldy go"; earth bound ateroids and the 4 horsemen allowing of course! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffrey Settle Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 Don't worry it's on the G20 agenda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 Geoff, you are missing the point The sensible and less gullible amongst us aren't worried at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffrey Settle Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 I know why should you change, you haven't worried in the past so why should you worry about the future? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 I know what is in the past, I haven't a clue what is in the future but I refuse to be worried by the various killjoys enployed at great expense to tell me things I don't believe and therefore don't worry about. I include also the demented local crusaders on here. I refuse to use the well worn expression "get a life" since you have all convinced yourselves that there isn't going to be one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffrey Settle Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 So why are you bothering posting about this topic and wasting your energy if you aren't that bothered....are you a contradiction? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 Geoff, I post on this topic just to break the monotony between your nonsense and your nonsense. .....and I am not in the slightest worried about wasting my energy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 What energy might this be????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 Geoff could be saving the eco-system around Brans Hatch?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egbert Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 I was thinking of coming on today and complimenting everyone on a reasonably thoughtful debate, devoid of the usual abuse that seems to arise whenever any serious subject is posted. Alas, over the weekend it would seem that is no longer appropriate. Why is it that those who see no point in taking action to try and combat climate change regard those that do as "sanctimonious"? I mean, if someone decides to give up their car, live in a cave, eat lentils, etc, they effect no-one but themselves. Could it be that those who advocate continuing with our profligate lifestyle feel some sense of guilt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 If you are feeling guilty about your profligate lifestyle then give it up but do it quietly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 I mean, if someone decides to give up their car, live in a cave, eat lentils, etc, they effect no-one but themselves The problem is that the people who are shouting loudest about "fighting climate change" don't want to give up anything themselves, they just want everyone else to pay up, shut up and go and live in unlit, unheated caves eating berries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 Fortunately, most of us, unlike our ancestors or decendents, have enjoyed a sybaritic lifestyle over the past 30 years or so; so in the lottery of existence have won the jackpot - so enjoy it while it lasts - your a long time dead! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egbert Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 I mean, if someone decides to give up their car, live in a cave, eat lentils, etc, they effect no-one but themselves The problem is that the people who are shouting loudest about "fighting climate change" don't want to give up anything themselves, they just want everyone else to pay up, shut up and go and live in unlit, unheated caves eating berries. You know these people personally I take it? Incidentally, isn't it amazing how people not named in my post, identify themselves so easily and quickly! Reminds me of an old saying: "If the cap fits, wear it." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 No I don't know Al Gore personally, fortunately! If you want a good laugh they are showing "An Inconvenient Truth" on Channel 4 next Saturday evening 9.20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 The problem with this subject is that it affects the WHOLE planet!!!! As usual, GB starts banging the drum and making ALL the sacrifices whilst the rest of the world carry on regardless. I would also suggest, that since the demise of coal-burning industry and the pollution from factories, smokeless fuel and car emissions, a massive amount has already been done in this country. And that is without PROOF that the world was causing climate change in the first place. This is one of those debates like the EU. Some agree and others don't. Just how long can the serious side of it be debated, except by re-gurgitating the same waffle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 It's re-cycling - old arguements! [/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 I notice that the council are now on the bandwagon.(Front page news). I thought WBC had no money???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
safeway56 Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 The global warming fascists must be well kissed off that we've had the coldest winter for 20 years...But let there be just one day of hot weather and it'll be *LOOK, I TOLD YOU SO....WE"RE ALL DOOMED I TELL YOU...ALL DOOMED* GW is a multi-billion dollar world wide industry and is unstoppable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 GW is a multi-billion dollar world wide industry and is unstoppable. A bit like climate change aka global warming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egbert Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 The global warming fascists must be well kissed off that we've had the coldest winter for 20 years...But let there be just one day of hot weather and it'll be *LOOK, I TOLD YOU SO....WE"RE ALL DOOMED I TELL YOU...ALL DOOMED* GW is a multi-billion dollar world wide industry and is unstoppable. Safeway You must be of tender years if you think this was a cold winter. Granted it was a bit colder than the last few years, but did you see anyone skating outdoors? Were they driving horses and carts on the frozen Thames? Accept it, climate change IS happening and has been happening throughout the lifetime of anyone alive today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 It might well be happening Egbert.... but there aint nothing we can do to change the course of nature.... remember Canute?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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