observer Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 If three people were killed in a car crash on the M/Way; by a car that allegedly was being driven at speed, by a driver who'd had a drink - should it be classed as murder? After all, if a drunk knifed three people in the street they would go to jail for at least - err 6 years. So what's different about killing with a motor car? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byrdy Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 Pre-meditation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted August 4, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2008 So, if you kill someone, without planning to do it, it's not murder - the fact remains someone's dead by your hand, as much if you do it with a car as a knife or a gun - thus if only manslaughter, sentencing should be comparable - say 10 years prison and banned from driving for life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonymaillman Posted August 4, 2008 Report Share Posted August 4, 2008 There'll be no deterrent to drink driving until being BANNED FROM DRIVING for life is introduced !! same goes for the trash that still use mobile phones whilst driving Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted August 4, 2008 Report Share Posted August 4, 2008 My little lad was in his mums car the other day and was driving down the M6 to Legoland. Â Mum pointed out that there was a Ferrari coming up the outside ; and being a bit of a car lover (don't know where he gets that from) he grabbed his mums camera and took some pictures as it went past. Â When we downloaded them, imagine seeing the driver with a mobile phone to his ear! Why is it that most drivers of big flashy expensive cars won't spend the extra 20 quid for a bluetooth kit? Maybe the fact that there are not enough Police patrols on the motorway to enforce the law? Â Maybe I should send the photos to the Police? The reg number is clearly visable in one of the shots!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted August 4, 2008 Report Share Posted August 4, 2008 Is your little lad old enough to be driving his mum's car, and should he be driving and taking photos at the same time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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observer Posted August 4, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2008 They did some tests on TV tonight; seems sat-nav programming whilst driving is the most dangerous driver distraction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 Those pictures pictures must have been set up. No-one would drive into places like that, would they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 Maybe I should send the photos to the Police? The reg number is clearly visable in one of the shots!! Â Indeed, maybe you should. Â For about ?20 from Carphone Warehouse you can buy a plug in bluetooth device to enable hands free call receiving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 They did some tests on TV tonight; seems sat-nav programming whilst driving is the most dangerous driver distraction. Â I would agree with that....it used to be reading a map on the lap.....or balancing it on the steering wheel....and for some people it still is. Â Mind you for some an attractive female either as a pasenger....or as a pedestrian can be a major distraction. Â It seems to be that people do have a casual regard to driving, not realising the damage one ton of metal at 30+ MPH can do. By and large manufacturers have realised that and in order to protect occupants and ensure that they feel safer cosset them with airbags, crumple zones, and features that counter a driver's inadequacies. Â PS To answer the question, yes....but we might need to build some more prisons first...or maybe they should be labour camps....or hotels Interesting article on the subject: Â http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2503119/Prison-too-harsh-on-inmates-says-report.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonymaillman Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 Quite right Paul ........ attractive female passengers or as pedestrians are very much a distraction I'm glad you've owned up to being distracted by that also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 I once crashed a car whilst looking at two young ladies. I was driving past MFI and they must have been going to Mr Smiths or somewhere..... I ran into the back of another car. My car was written off! Â DOH!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted August 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 Perhaps women should cover themselves up, when walking the streets - in the interest of road safety?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 Re.. the actual title of this thread.. 'Do we need to review sentencing tariffs'  Front page news today Saturday 9th August  Local teen shoots girl in leg with paint ball gun ? gets 12 months in young offenders institution.  whilst a  Local serial flasher who exposed himself on numerous occasions ,including infront of very young teenage girls, and who also admitted burglary - gets no jail sentence but will be under supervision for three years ??? (what 24 hours a day??? ) , ordered to live at a bail hostel for 12-months , and ordered to complete a sex offenders programme and to sign on with police for the next five years.  Surely something is wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 Maybe the local youth with the paintball gun could do community service by shooting the flasher in the nuts for 80 hours!! Â I'd watch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 Brilliant  I think that would do nicely Baz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted August 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 Probably get stopped, due to a "NO BALL GAMES" sign! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 Â Providing of course they can actuaaly read them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 More likely to get stopped by the Huuuman rites Nazis to be honest! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted August 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 Perhaps Sharia Law could solve the flashing problem?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 Who's she? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted August 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 The Lady with the shears! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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