observer Posted July 27, 2008 Report Share Posted July 27, 2008 The attempt by two drunken women to open the cabin door at 30,000 feet, on a return flight from Kos, is yet another example of binge drinking yobbery; and hopefully they will be made to pay the costs caused to the airline. Having said that; who was selling them the booze on the plane in the first place, and if they were drunk before boarding; why wern't they prevented from boarding - seems the airlines ask for this kind of thing too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted July 27, 2008 Report Share Posted July 27, 2008 A good point, they might well have also been drinking their duty free purchases as well. I understand they were caught having a ciggy in the toilet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kateoflymm Posted July 27, 2008 Report Share Posted July 27, 2008 Were they trying to go outside for a smoke then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonymaillman Posted July 27, 2008 Report Share Posted July 27, 2008 Sedation with a fist would have been my answer !!! Also a good point Obs, why are cigs banned but drinking isn't on planes ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Posted July 27, 2008 Report Share Posted July 27, 2008 Seems to me they should have been given a 2 drink limit - almost like an episode of Ab Fab?? Â Tony we have talked about this (smoking & drinking) on planes - ended up a heated arguement I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonymaillman Posted July 27, 2008 Report Share Posted July 27, 2008 Why should there be ANY limit to the amount of drink .... there should be NONE !! if smokers have to go without a cig on a plane for hours why can't people do without drink also ??!! Sorry Mary but why have one rule for one and one for another ?? it's even worse when the alcohol kicks in with some of em and they start getting 'mouthy' OR as we used to call them 'elastic jaws' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted July 27, 2008 Report Share Posted July 27, 2008 Question. Â Can you actually open an aircraft door when it's at 30,000 feet. Â Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted July 27, 2008 Report Share Posted July 27, 2008 you don't need to on a Quantas flight!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Posted July 27, 2008 Report Share Posted July 27, 2008 Quantas...Never Crashed...Quantas... Who's on fourth! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Posted July 27, 2008 Report Share Posted July 27, 2008 No need to be sorry Tony - I am on your side - I can be very uncomfortable sitting next to a person that drinks for 4- 8 hours. It should be no booze - no ciggys!! It has already gotten to no food or snacks over here!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted July 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2008 I think it IS possible to open the door - if you know how. At 30,000ft they would have been sucked out of the plane, and anyone else close by, then the oxy masks would drop and the pilot would dive to 10,000ft. The two binged up slappers would be dead before they hit the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 I'm a non-drinker, myself, but I can well understand some people need a relaxant if they are to fly at 30,000 feet. Why should they have to suffer anxiety just because two silly people thought it would be hilarious to have some fresh air? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 Just done some checking and apparently it?s impossible to open the doors at 30000 feet unless your on the film set of a disaster movie. Â Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted July 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 ...... in which case, reckless endangerment is going to be difficult to pin on them?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 Thanks, Bill. I was once on an airplane where a six year old child was fascinated with the escape door and actually laid hands on it, trying to turn, unsuccessfully. After all, there were painted arrows on it suggesting that it be turned, right? Some of my hair turned white. The child was carried off by its parent, but I later inquired if the door was operable while in the air and assured that was inoperable in the air. Still...doubts remained. Now, I can sleep at nights again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted July 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 seems these two idiots were Scousers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 The doors are so designed that the air pressure inside the plane would keep them closed even if the locks failed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted July 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 Errrrm, we have a positive pressure INSIDE the plane, with a negative pressure OUTSIDE the plane? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted July 29, 2008 Report Share Posted July 29, 2008 Same principle as a cork but with the cork fitted from the inside of the bottle. Â Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted July 29, 2008 Report Share Posted July 29, 2008 Errrrm, we have a positive pressure INSIDE the plane, with a negative pressure OUTSIDE the plane? Â Exactly!! Therefore it is impossible to open the doors while there is a pressure differential. If you watch the cabin crew closing the doors, they pull the doors into the cabin and then push them into the opening. The doors are held closed by internal cabin pressure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted July 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 I'll take your word on that Asp. Aside from "air rage"; seems there are a few other risks involved with flying - Deep vein thrombosis and infections caused by the recycling of the air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 Not forgetting the odd oxygen cylinder exploding...or being hijacked by some suicidal fanatics. Thankfully it does still remain the safest mode of transport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted July 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 The infection rate is probably not included in any stats, as many minor cases may not be reported (which I know from personal experience on two occasions now!). One woman received a circular letter from an airline, saying that she should visit her GP due to a TB case on her flight! Sure enough, she was diagnosed with TB, and she hadn't sat anywhere near the TB case. There are also claims, that toxins from hydraulcs and fuel are taken into the air recirculation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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