tonymaillman Posted January 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 Debatable about the 1377 'end' of medieval, largely due to the death of Edward III who is classed as the last 'real' medieval King. It's where the 'early' beginning of the wars of the roses starts, but I've YET to come across anyone or find reference to the wars of the roses NOT being classed medieval, however, 2nd quarter to mid 15th century has a huge influence from the Italians, both in clothing design and armour style, so in effect the 'early' start of the renaissance. As regards medieval ............ I'll 'bleed' possibly to the year 915 AD, I'm sure you'll know why Gunner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man in Black Posted April 26, 2008 Report Share Posted April 26, 2008 So what have we established ? The basics of Pagan, Christian and Gnostic belief, with a gathering of historic information and politics thrown in for good measure ? We also know where we all stand as personalities and the basics of 'overkill' on Internet Forums perhaps ? Maybe the conclusions are: that NO ONE knows what actually happened in the past, NO ONE knows what any other living human being realy believes, and NO ONE has the right to make anyone else do anything by force, religion or politics. We are ALL fragments of the Divine, the Great Architect. Tread lighty in the gaden ! Gnostics win again - live and let live - and that's a PERSONAL responsibility for us all whoever we are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted April 26, 2008 Report Share Posted April 26, 2008 Mark, NOT a very good advert for History programs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goonerman Posted May 26, 2008 Report Share Posted May 26, 2008 Mark, a spectacularly self-defeating post at every turn. Thank you. Let's see. An admission that Paganism, Christianity and Gnosticism are all totally separate. Nope. The internet is not a good gauge for judging personalities. Overkill. Too big a topic for overkill. If no-one knows what happened in the past, then History is dead. So that is now the fourth person I've encountered on this site who denies History as a viable discipline and all four are professional History promoters/educators! As for not knowing what you believe, in spite of the specifics or your sect not being made clear, the basics of Gnosticism are clear. God has the right to enforce His views on others, and one day He will do it once and for all. Forever. Nope, NONE of us are fragments of the Divine. Just ignorant little humans. After all, God knows everything, and judging by this post, you know nothing and your credentials as an historian are in tatters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonymaillman Posted May 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2008 Hello GM .......... nice to see you posting again This isn't meant as 'having a go' at your last post but ........ a lot of what we interpret and believe about the past is borne out of 'own opinions' - as it were - quite simply because as far as actually knowing how the past was and how truthful the things we know and believe are we can only base ANY of it on either written evidence (or manuscripts), illuminations and physical archaeological finds (or items that have survived through 'passing down' etc), those are the only real sources. We study things, and as I'm sure you are well aware we all have our own ideas as to what was what etc ............ that personally to me isn't 'damaging' the discipline of history, but as I've mentioned that is MY own opinion. I fail to see how we can be damaging our teachings of the past if what we do professionally is base everything on 'real' things such as the three sources mentioned above. Again that is MY own opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goonerman Posted May 26, 2008 Report Share Posted May 26, 2008 Obbs won't be. He's had an easy ride these past few months. PS. What happened to the Early Christians thread? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonymaillman Posted May 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2008 You miss winding Obs up really don't you ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goonerman Posted May 26, 2008 Report Share Posted May 26, 2008 All I mean is that I think Post-Modernism and History are incompatible. I think there is enough evidence around, however problematic. (There's a lot of stuff I've held back on. ) As for Obbs, well, yes and no, but I can tell he's been having it nice and easy these past few months, and it would be nice to harry him a bit and make him all edgy again. Some time I'm going to do a serial history of Ireland. I always meant to give an analysis of the 1993-94 period in particular. I've also been having fun writing fan fiction scripts as exercises in compressing my writing style. Completely different discipline! Getting back to where I started, the difficulty is that some past statements can be taken to mean that finding out the truth cannot be done and that we can know nothing about anything. For example, in NT study there are established scientific methods there and clear ground rules for debate. Indeed, my own working methods were actually devised by the opposition. That said, I read my record of my debate from 2000 on the future of Britain recently, and it nearly did my head in. I'm just not sure this forum is the place for the stuff I'd like to discuss. And I want to ask the mods, is there a possibility of setting up a section for writing TV and movie fan fiction? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonymaillman Posted May 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2008 Fair point ....... I agree with you on the post-modernism and history Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted May 26, 2008 Report Share Posted May 26, 2008 Don't encourage him Tone; he WISHES he could wind me up, but usually gets hoisted by his own petard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goonerman Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 Stop looking in the mirror, Obbs- I don't look like you. (He thinks I don't know what he looks like. Maybe I need to tell him!) A lump of melting chocolate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 tut tut, zzzzzzz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonymaillman Posted June 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 Here we go again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 1 to the O its the clue to life the universe and everyting..thats my thoughts ! you realy have to have thought about religeon/philosopy to understand this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goonerman Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 Sounds about as meaningful as '42'. I never encountered that in philosophy. Stop smoking your books, Legion! Read them instead! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 ouroboros Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goonerman Posted June 24, 2008 Report Share Posted June 24, 2008 Heavy man! Vegetable rights and peace! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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