Exit Strategy ?

[Observer II]

We are currently in the peak of the pandemic and Starmer and others, are talking about an exit strategy from lockdown.    Any premature relaxation of lockdown and social distancing measures will only cause a resurgence in virus spread, so we need measured responses advised by science, not knee jerk opportunism by politicians.      😷

[asperity]

Despite what he claims, Starmer is trying to score cheap political points on the back of the emergency and trying to worm himself into some position of influence.

[Observer II]

I'm noticing that the media are becoming the biggest threat to public safety, with interviewers like Piers Morgan goading Ministers just to score points.  At a time when most are anxious,  we don't need the media criticising just for the sake of sensationalism and point scoring.  HMG are damned if they do and damned if they don't.   What is clear, is that life won't return to normal (if ever), until there is a solid anti-viral cure or vaccine;  and social distancing will be required till then.         😷

[Evil Sid]

Might be worth them looking at the report on Hokkaido's easing of the lock down on the bbc website. Lasted 26 days and now in lock down again and infections worse than original outbreak.

[Observer II]

Meanwhile, they are now flying in veg pickers from E/Europe - will they be tested for corvid, will they be quarantined, the mind boggles.      😷

[Davy51]

I must say, this MPs working from home could be a good idea. They can the devote more time to constituency work while still being in touch with Parliament as a whole & not needing to travel there as often.

[Observer II]

But they won't be able to have a drink and a smoke in the HoC bar   !     😉

[Evil Sid]

so a saving all round. No extra expenses for us to fund for travel and no having to foot the bar bill. (negates the need for HS2 as well)..🤔

[Observer II]

For those in the media and elsewhere, gagging for an exit strategy;  Wuhan had the most draconian lock down for over three months and has recently eased it.   Now we're seeing a resurgence in cases and a 50% increase in death rates.  The Chinese are blaming returning Nationals from overseas, but they could have been quarantined; could it be that the alleged original source of this virus, the wet markets and food chain, have not been cleaned up ?        😷

[asperity]

I would take any pronouncement coming from the CCP with a large sack of salt. I think any reduction of restrictions will have to be very gradual with a close watch kept on any rise in infection rates resulting. Fortunately we are behind a lot of other countries in the progression of this pandemic so will have their experiences to draw on.

[Observer II]

Any information from China must now be suspect, after their original cover up;  their total death toll was probably a lot higher and a lot earlier than we we're told.  😷Meanwhile, we're flying in fruit pickers and still having beach landings by illegals from Calais  - unbelievable    😷

[Davy51]

Perhaps the illegals should be put to work in the fields then deported when no longer required. It might make them think twice about returning & deter other prospective scroungers.

[Davy51]

4 hours ago, Observer II said:

For those in the media and elsewhere, gagging for an exit strategy;  Wuhan had the most draconian lock down for over three months and has recently eased it.   Now we're seeing a resurgence in cases and a 50% increase in death rates.  The Chinese are blaming returning Nationals from overseas, but they could have been quarantined; could it be that the alleged original source of this virus, the wet markets and food chain, have not been cleaned up ?        😷

All this transmission of coronavirus sounds very strange. We are told that is generally transmitted by touching an infected surface then making hand contact with mouth/nose/eyes, hence the barrier nursing techniques being used, or by indirect infection of  airborne bodily fluids. Yet ,there has been no hard & fast statement of the cause of the outbreak, it is very easy for a government to blame an anonymous bunch of peasants for their food sourcing habits,whereas in recent memory we have had the incidents in Salisbury of the touch distributed norovirus. It all seems to be more of a leak of some type or other, that enough is known about in official circles to warrant locking down world economies.

[Observer II]

Think the Salisbury case was a chemical agent, not biological.   There is one theory out there, that this is a man made pathogen, that escaped from a weapons lab in Wuhan, which could explain the initial delay and secrecy by the Chinese.   This delay was imo, continued by the WHO in not declaring a pandemic sooner, and by Governments not locking down China immediately; there are still global flights, even now - unbelievable. The more one reads from "experts", the gloomier the forecast gets; they're talking about several "waves" of this virus and over several years; so maybe it's going to be a case of herd immunity or death for us.      💀  😷

[Confused52]

6 hours ago, Observer II said:

Any information from China must now be suspect, after their original cover up;  their total death toll was probably a lot higher and a lot earlier than we we're told. 

The 50% was extra deaths in the original incident, they are quarantining returners I suspect, they are certainly testing them and a single test is not much use.

[Observer II]

I think what we need to avoid is "herd mentality" as folk get fed up with the lock down.   Herd mentality is based on safety in numbers, like when the annual migration crosses a river full of waiting crocodiles;  they know they can get eaten, but each believe it won't be them, so swim across anyway, as is their nature.  😷💀

[asperity]

I thought herd mentality is what Liverpool supporters have. They "herd" from the media that they were going to win the Premier League title this season 😉.

Sorry Koppites, couldn't resist a dig 😂.

[Observer II]

The herd mentality is being voiced by some in the media and politics,   gagging to end lock down  - fortunately a view only shared by 9% of people in a poll.    😷