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Well that always happens when too many try to jump on the same specialist bandwagon irrespective of where they’re located. Running might be a big thing right now but supplying only running shoes seriously limits the number of visitors, so to keep them coming back they need to be right on their game.

It seems very few shops these days stand the test of time and even the big names are deserting our town centres. Perhaps they should look at stores like Handcock and Woods and see if they can work out what the magic formula is.

 

Bill :)

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It's nice to see an old established shop like H&W still going. But just before Christmas my wife was dragging me round the shops and saw a cardy in there for my old mum, priced £12. I was all for buying it, but my wife dragged me over the market where the exact same Cardy was £9 on a stall there.

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On 1/18/2020 at 10:06 PM, TF and the wire said:

It's nice to see an old established shop like H&W still going. But just before Christmas my wife was dragging me round the shops and saw a cardy in there for my old mum, priced £12. I was all for buying it, but my wife dragged me over the market where the exact same Cardy was £9 on a stall there.

I suspect H&W have slightly higher over heads than a market stallholder. I have seen items in JTF warehouse at a fraction of the prices of High Legh and Bents Garden Centres - but the shopping experiences are totally different.

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We went to bents/high legh  a few weeks ago (gawd where was I as I always get the two confused) and I bought a little hanging 'apple' birdfeeder.  It was only about £3 so was quite impressed.  I wont mention all the other price tags I spotted walking the store though <ouch>

So then I looked for bird feed stuffs they also sold so I could fill it to fill it and the cheapest was about £5 a pack so I didn't but any and though I'd get from elsewhere.  I went into out local family run pet shop in Stockton Heath this week and got a bag full of bird seed for 85p.  Sort of wish I'd bought a bird feeder from them too now :(

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Went into town today, Sunday and was pleasantly surprised at how busy it was.

Golden Square was busy and there were also several shops open outside. I was in the olde sweeter shoppe and noticed kids on their own and with parents possibly getting stocked up before a trip to the pictures. 

Time square and the pictures had plenty of people around too. 

Could the pictures be having a positive effect so soon? 

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Took my dad into town centre for a night out at Botanist and Cineworld - great time! Quite a few in Botanist but cinema was pretty empty!

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Not so much to be positive about after hearing of Debenhams permanent closure. Really disappointed in the landlords for not negotiating a  deal to keep it open. They either have a queue of potential customers just waiting to move in once Debs have left or they don't mind having gigantic empty units for years.

Sad to say that there is little to draw people into Warrington town centre these days. You can get the same in much smaller neighbouring towns. The council need to look into the impact of out of town retail parks too.

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Yes I agree.

With M&S Debenhams and BHS. now all missing from Golden Square the lucrative middle aged customer has very little choice than to go elsewhere.

A great pity I loved a browse round Debenhams and always felt comfortable in their surroundings.

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The town centre needs a core dwelling population to support what would then be their local shops. It's a pity the developers didn't think of adding housing & flats in the town centre plan to be created at the same time as retail. I suppose this is a problem nationwide though & it is not surprising we have such traffic problems with people needing cars to travel to shops which can be miles from housing developments.

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Totally agree Davy, but there are apartment blocks going up on Winwick St and Academy way with others in the pipeline, so in a couple of years time there should be a sizeable town centre population. They will be looking for local food shops and Tesco and Sainsburys aren't to far away.

Might be an opportunity for Asda to move from Cockhedge into either the old M&S of even Debs, especially as most of Cockhedge is being demolished soon.

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35 minutes ago, TF and the wire said:

Totally agree Davy, but there are apartment blocks going up on Winwick St and Academy way with others in the pipeline, so in a couple of years time there should be a sizeable town centre population. They will be looking for local food shops and Tesco and Sainsburys aren't to far away.

Might be an opportunity for Asda to move from Cockhedge into either the old M&S of even Debs, especially as most of Cockhedge is being demolished soon.

Is a great idea I think M&S would be the best Debs is to big.

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Also as an after thought

When this virus is over I wonder if town centres nightlife ie Bridge St and it's other areas will return or have people have found other interests now and won't want to return to the old noisy dangerous streets that the area was famed(if thats the word)for over the years.

 

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12 hours ago, Latchford Locks said:

 

With M&S Debenhams and BHS. now all missing from Golden Square the lucrative middle aged customer has very little choice than to go elsewhere.

A great pity I loved a browse round Debenhams and always felt comfortable in their surroundings.

I agree, it's a great shame our Warrington Debenhams is closing as it's a great shop with a huge range of things as did BHS.  I was never to keen on M&S in town though as it went down hill a bit in the clothes ranges they had and were all a bit old fashioned.
   
Back to Debenhams.....It's not only the middle aged customers who will miss it as I know a lot of young people in their 20's who also shop in there too for makeup, perfumes, clothes, gifts and homeware items etc as some is very reasonably priced and good quality.  

Yet another blow to Warrington Town Centre but hey ho I guess we can all go to the one in the Trafford Centre instead if that's staying open......  wrong though I know as we should be supporting our own town centre but hard to do that with so many decent stores closing down.     

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11 hours ago, TF and the wire said:

Might be an opportunity for Asda to move from Cockhedge into either the old M&S of even Debs, especially as most of Cockhedge is being demolished soon.

To be honest I think Asda moving into the old M&S or Debenhams would be a bad idea as it wouldn't have it's own car park which would make it difficult for big food shopping. 
I used to go into Wilkinsons a lot when it was at Cockhedge but have only been in twice since it moved into the Golden Square.

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8 hours ago, Latchford Locks said:

Also as an after thought

When this virus is over I wonder if town centres nightlife ie Bridge St and it's other areas will return or have people have found other interests now and won't want to return to the old noisy dangerous streets that the area was famed(if thats the word)for over the years.

 

I was thinking that too but then it could go twice as bad as it was with the revelers wanting to make up for lost time and celebrating their release from lockdown big style eek.  Remind me not to go out for a month or two  when lockdown is over lol

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Well the streets are a lot cleaner.

parking is free, for now.

Still get the pushbike wallers trundling through though, still as thought less but much easier to spot.

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On 4/18/2020 at 11:52 AM, TF and the wire said:

 

Might be an opportunity for Asda to move from Cockhedge into either the old M&S of even Debs, especially as most of Cockhedge is being demolished soon.

So what is happening with the Cockhedge Center?

Been hearing apartments were to be built on the site but last I read it was to be expanded?

I don't get why the spaces over the shops in the town are not converted to apartments. They make great sizable apartments.

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10 hours ago, Milky said:

So what is happening with the Cockhedge Center?

Been hearing apartments were to be built on the site but last I read it was to be expanded?

I don't get why the spaces over the shops in the town are not converted to apartments. They make great sizable apartments.

From what I've heard everything from Asda to Scotland Rd will be demolished. This along with the land available when New Town House is knoocked down will leave a sizeable amound of land for residential use.

Asda and the other side of Cockhedge will stay open apart from the old Comet building which is also going.

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I believe the local authorities are envisioning financial meltdown with loss of car parking revenue due to "the crisis".

Back to town centre living, it does make good sense since it is within easy striking distance of both main line stations, instead of being a good car journey away. With the eventual construction of HS2 we should be well within the London commuter belt within 30 years.

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With a lot of people, including politicians, working from home do we really need HS2. Just wondering...🤔

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4 hours ago, Evil Sid said:

With a lot of people, including politicians, working from home do we really need HS2. Just wondering...🤔

With the cost of this virus the last thing we need is this pointless financial blackhole

 

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