Observer II Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 Seems the UK currently have better "worker's rights" than the EU, and thus not dependent on membership of the EU. So a red herring hatched by Labour as a Remoaner excuse for opposition to Brexit. If employment standards and environmental standards become matters for our domestic Parliament in any case, this issue will be governed by domestic election results. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confused52 Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 Everything Labour says at the moment is in the same category - they are just saying what Red Len tells them to whilst the parliamentary party is still split like the Tories. They are just hiding behind the SNP a lot of the time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted October 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 But why doesn't anybody call them out on what is clearly a lie ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milky Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 Zero hour contracts have been sorted out then? I used to work a lot for agencies and I recall the UK having been forced to accept better conditions for these working for agencies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted October 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 That's a matter for a UK Gov to sort out, if and when we ever gain our independence; evidently being in the EU hasn't stopped it ; and the preservation and improvement on those rights that exceed those of the EU, would also be a matter for HMG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confused52 Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 8 minutes ago, Observer II said: That's a matter for a UK Gov to sort out, if and when we ever gain our independence; evidently being in the EU hasn't stopped it ; and the preservation and improvement on those rights that exceed those of the EU, would also be a matter for HMG. The agreement guarantees that workers right will not be made worse than they are in the EU at the end of the implementation period. There is also a guarantee to consider changes thereafter and produce a report to Parliament annually of what the difference with the EU is. No guarantee they will be adopted but a guarantee it will not get worse. Starmer says they will definitely get worse which is a lie. Not least because there could be a Labour government examining the report. So that either means that Starmer thinks they will lose the next election or that if they win Labour will not improve workers rights. Pick your own version! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy51 Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 Workers rights have not been improved by the Working Time Directive ,apart from a longer holiday entitlement . Driver's hours in particular are worse in terms of longer working periods than under UK Domestic laws. The WTD is really of no benefit to other workers either who had better safeguards under collective bargaining. The only stipulation for non mobile workers in the WTD is a 20 minute break after 6 hours work & the 48 hour week is optional with a worker opt out clause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milky Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 55 minutes ago, Davy51 said: Workers rights have not been improved by the Working Time Directive ,apart from a longer holiday entitlement . Driver's hours in particular are worse in terms of longer working periods than under UK Domestic laws. The WTD is really of no benefit to other workers either who had better safeguards under collective bargaining. The only stipulation for non mobile workers in the WTD is a 20 minute break after 6 hours work & the 48 hour week is optional with a worker opt out clause. Drivers hours are a pain, totally inflexible. Yet only the UK government strictly enforces them. The UK government limit night out pay tp a very low rate 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latchford Locks Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 On 10/22/2019 at 1:11 PM, Confused52 said: Everything Labour says at the moment is in the same category - they are just saying what Red Len tells them to whilst the parliamentary party is still split like the Tories. They are just hiding behind the SNP a lot of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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