Observer II Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 Seems the the Lib Dems have now come out of the closet and are campaigning to revoke article 50, without a second referendum - seems they must have been doing their electoral sums and discovered they may lose another referendum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy51 Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 Yes ,perhaps they need to re-brand, they are neither liberal nor democratic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted September 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 Well, given that the majority of MPs have now come out of the closet and are determined to stop Brexit; it seems clear that any deal that Boris comes up with, will be voted down by Parliament. Therefore, by passing Parliament for a no deal seems the only way Boris can deliver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confused52 Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 However by-passing Parliament cannot be described as anything other than un-democratic. Don't bother telling me about the referendum again because it did not and does not over-ride the constitution, not even the shreds that Bercow has left behind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted September 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 Thought our constitution was unwritten ! 😉 It's clear from events that the enemy of democracy has been this Parliament. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confused52 Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 Our constitution is not all written but it does exist and the enemy of it has without doubt been this Parliament. However it has to be said in my view that the House of Commons bears the clearest blame and in it Speaker Bercow has enabled the revolting actions by a litany of unconstitutional moves over a long period. A more biased Speaker it is hard to imagine and it is to be hoped that he will never be ennobled but I suspect if the rogues in Labour ever take power in the next ten years the little git with the Napoleon complex will be made a Lord. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted September 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 I'll second that one Con - anyone who names one of his kids after a duck, deserves retribution ! 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted September 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2019 What I find amusing is the way the Lib-unDems, try to claim the centre ground on Brexit, and talk about re-uniting a polarised Nation. The problem is, there is no "centre ground", it's a binary issue - IN or OUT; and they've chosen the Remain extreme, despite the result of the referendum. Their politically immature Leader even claims that in the event of another referendum voting to Leave, she would still question the people's decision and persist in trying to keep us in - clearly a case of my way or no way; not very liberal, and certainly not democratic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted October 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2019 According to Mahyar Tousi on Youtube; he alleges that Jo Swinson is in receipt of funding from George Soros, and her husband's company has received funding directly from the EU - presumably this should be in the register of Members Interest in Parliament; so why hasn't the media seized on it ? Interesting also, the Libs are engaged in a data gathering exercise, which arguably contravenes privacy rules; however, perhaps the results they are getting on public opinion is the reason they no longer want a "people's vote" but are now switching to a revocation of Article 50 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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