asperity Posted July 29, 2018 Report Share Posted July 29, 2018 https://youtu.be/IB9kYElMOL4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted July 29, 2018 Report Share Posted July 29, 2018 Manny Airport is now on my "don't go there" list; not because of the parking rip off; but cos of the manic state of our current transport and security system, endless queuing and walking round like cattle, ain't my view of a good start to a holiday. Going by the news, this is widespread, including rail stations and roads into ports. So, if your queue intolerant, best stop at home ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted July 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2018 I've decided that I'm never going to fly again, not because of the actual flight but because of the mindless security hassle "customers" have to endure. It has even got to tiny regional airports like Kirkwall and Stornoway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted July 30, 2018 Report Share Posted July 30, 2018 So in a way the terrorist are having an effect, despite there being little threat of them causing an incident at an airport or on a plane. It is hard for these places as they are damned no matter what they do. Too little security and they face being raked over the coals for the possibility of allowing a terrorist onto a plane. Too much and people complain that it is a draconian regime full of self important jobsworths. They are on a no win scenario either way. The parking rip off is just that a rip off. somebody at some point must have realised that it would lead to them making a few extra bob form the public when it was suggested that the drop off be changed. in theory having a on way system for drop off is a good idea, it is having to pay to get out that is the bad idea. especially at busy times when the minimum time will be exceeded just getting to the barrier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted July 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2018 Oh I agree Sid, terrorism has achieved its aim of disrupting civilisation. But it's been helped in no small measure by over zealous cretins and their foot soldiers with their OTT security requirements. As I said I've no intention of ever putting myself through all that ever again. On the parking thing, I don't know if the people in charge have noticed how ridiculous it is yet and are intending to do something about it, but if they aren't they are putting themselves on the list of people due an appointment with hempen rope and lampost! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted July 30, 2018 Report Share Posted July 30, 2018 I’m pretty sure that airport use is going up not down, perhaps not everyone is as precious as asperity 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted July 30, 2018 Report Share Posted July 30, 2018 I'm with Asp, just hope he doesn't start a queue ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted July 30, 2018 Report Share Posted July 30, 2018 Enjoy your fortnight in Rhyl then . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted July 30, 2018 Report Share Posted July 30, 2018 Certainly will, providing there's no traffic queues ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted July 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2018 3 hours ago, P J said: I’m pretty sure that airport use is going up not down, perhaps not everyone is as precious as asperity 😂 What has airport use going up have to do with what travelling decisions I care to make? I just don't like being treated like a potential terrorist that's all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted July 30, 2018 Report Share Posted July 30, 2018 .. or cattle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted July 31, 2018 Report Share Posted July 31, 2018 As long as there is a potential for terrorists to exist alongside "normal" people then everybody will be treated as a potential terrorist until proven otherwise. Unfortunately asp it does not matter if you like it or not it is just something that we now have to live with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy51 Posted July 31, 2018 Report Share Posted July 31, 2018 It isn't really the security system or its officers that hold people up ,it is because so many people are not yet up to spec with what has to be taken off & displayed in the tray & put through the scanner. Items omitted mean the person being searched & causing a hold up. It is the same with electrical items ,medication in liquid or aerosol form ,lighters & wallets & belts. I think we should be more worried about airports in our overseas holiday destinations being less thorough in searches for our return flights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted July 31, 2018 Report Share Posted July 31, 2018 Not all the delays and queuing are caused by security, seems a bit of bad weather can cause chaos too ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted July 31, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2018 We seem to be off track a bit, because the chaos caused at the drop off point at Terminal 3 has nothing to do with anti-terrorism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted July 31, 2018 Report Share Posted July 31, 2018 it's the heat wave Asp; the track must have expanded and bent with the heat ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy51 Posted July 31, 2018 Report Share Posted July 31, 2018 On 30/07/2018 at 12:03 PM, P J said: I’m pretty sure that airport use is going up not down, perhaps not everyone is as precious as asperity 😂 Isn't the airport due to take on many more direct flights to/from China with a business enterprise zone financed by the Chinese ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted August 2, 2018 Report Share Posted August 2, 2018 On 29/07/2018 at 10:26 PM, asperity said: I've decided that I'm never going to fly again, not because of the actual flight but because of the mindless security hassle "customers" have to endure. It has even got to tiny regional airports like Kirkwall and Stornoway. "We seem to be off track a bit, because the chaos caused at the drop off point at Terminal 3 has nothing to do with anti-terrorism." seems this is the point of separation into the meander, hope this helps Asperity lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted August 8, 2018 Report Share Posted August 8, 2018 They could reduce the queues dramatically if they eased their silly PC rules and allowed a certain degree of profiling. As far as I know, terrorist are typically loners and I can't imagine they would ever consider taking taking their children with them but despite this, oldies like me and the wife or families with kids on their way to places like Benidorm are subjected to the full blown security checks. What I've never understood is if there was something dodgy about someone, it might well flag up when the passport is checked but once passed that point, the focus is lost and the person is just another passenger as far as security is concerned. Surly anyone with any kind of marker on their records should be subjected to a higher degree of checks. Maybe sometime in the future, passengers could be issued with a bio-metric wrist band that could track movement within the terminal and any elevated heart rates/sweat as i reckon that would be pretty hard to disguise if you're about to blow yourself up. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy51 Posted August 8, 2018 Report Share Posted August 8, 2018 I think the fact that you are being monitored would be enough to produce sweating ,raised heartbeat etc. ,& let's not forget the mother & 2 daughters just sent down for being a terrorist family unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted August 8, 2018 Report Share Posted August 8, 2018 I think they weren't exactly children Davy, more young radicalised adults that were planning an attack with knives and guns in some public place. In any case if you're taking a bomb onto a plane you don't need your mates or family with you unless you're really rubbish at making bombs. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted August 8, 2018 Report Share Posted August 8, 2018 Think you have a common sense point Bill; but the powers that be wouldn't allow racial profiling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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