observer Posted December 14, 2017 Report Share Posted December 14, 2017 To take organs from a dead body, for transplant purposes - Good or Bad idea ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted December 14, 2017 Report Share Posted December 14, 2017 Where this idea has already been used, it was found to make little or no difference. There are concerns that this could be the "thin edge of the wedge" giving government ownership of our bodies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted December 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2017 Funny you mention that Asp, just read a quote from a blogger, saying that in law, a corpse is the property of the state ! In any event, if Doctors can use any body on the basis of presumed consent, it would seem more organs will become available. My beef would be with those who opt out of consent, if they still expect to be a recipient if they should ever need a transplant, when imo they should be told "sorry, you've opted out". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted December 14, 2017 Report Share Posted December 14, 2017 I guess at the end of the day if we don't want our bits and pieces removed and donated when we are dead then we should all make sure we make that clear and make sure our nearest and dearest are aware of out wishes too before our time comes. Thinking about it I don't think I'd really care care what happens to my bits when I'm gone as after all I;d be dead anyway so wouldn;t miss them... but then on the other side of the fence if it was a member of my families 'bits' and they hadn't giver permission themselves then I'd probably say a big NO as I'd want to think of them as still being whole and the way they were:( I know it sounds strange...but I am strange. Pretty sad topic this as while we typing away discussing and pondering so many other people are having to make that very decision regarding donating their loved ones organs just as many others are probably sitting there hoping someone will donate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy51 Posted December 15, 2017 Report Share Posted December 15, 2017 If a corpse is the property of the state you would expect the state to pay all funeral costs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted December 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2017 Perhaps that could be an incentive; let them use your bits and you get a free funeral ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted December 15, 2017 Report Share Posted December 15, 2017 I have always said that i will donate my body to medical science (if you can still do that) If they want to take any useful bits to use for others then fine by me. Although what bits will be of any use, other than as a warning, i would not like to speculate on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted December 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 Just learned of the price of a "cheaper" funeral - over £4,000; seems donating the body to science is becoming an attractive option; just hope folk don't start fly tipping them ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 blimey £4,000 is a shocker especially as you say that is one of the cheaper options. Why on earth does it cost so much to bury/cremate a person The body is just body in a box in a hole in the ground or burnt....sorry I know that sounds awful to describe that way but that is what happens. Re your comment about people being fly tipped .... I guess the body could be traced back to family though who would then have to foot the bill. I'd quite like to be fly tipped though from a straw laden cart pulled by either shire horses or those black and white gypsy type horses. I'd be happy with that ...but not just yet please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 Perhaps burial at sea could become attractive, but I suppose you'd still have to pay the ferry man ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 But cheap at tuppence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 Maybe not, if the cruise companies latch onto the idea - literally cruise and stay ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 Thought it was tuppence per person trip, per trip or per part of per trip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 If Ryanair get the franchise, it'll be cheaper, as it's a one way trip ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 If students are expected to pay back student loans after attending university on the assumption that they are going to be better off in the long term, why not do the same with organ recipients? If your only options were to die or take this dead blokes lungs but you have to pay a bit extra tax for the extra 20 years of life it's going to give you, who wouldn't? Bit of extra funding for the NHS right there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 Sounds like a private insurance approach Baz; many just wouldn't be able to afford it. The solution is fairly simple: presumed consent allowing medics to use any bits that are usefull. The only stipulation should be; that those not wishing to give (by opting out); should be prevented from receiving (info kept on medical data base). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 It hasn't worked in Wales: http://www.bmj.com/content/359/bmj.j5659.full Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted February 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 Without knowing the level of "opt outs", or the numbers of people dying in Hospital, this doesn't tell us much. As every corpse, providing suitability, is now available, logic suggests an increase in transplant availability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 Wow, logic defeated by reality! Well done Obs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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