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Once upon a time Councils used to collect household rubbish for a small fee; then it started to increase.  Enter the private sector, gangs who will take your rubbish for a relatively cheap fee and then fly tip it anywhere.   Again, the law of unintended consequences in operation.       :ph34r:

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I'm slightly confused by the question Obs as the Council DO collect our rubbish Obs providing we put it in our black, blue or green bins of course.  Or do you mean the Council used to collect other (non bin) rubbish too?  If that's what you mean then people could just take theirs to the local tip as it's free to do so and is surely a better alternative to paying some private company to take it away for you.   I quite like going Stockton Heath Tip as the blokes there are a good laugh and so helpful :D 

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BBC news the other night Diz: seems in some areas of the country, gangs are approaching householders to collect rubbish from their properties and then fly tipping it.  If WBC provide this kind of service free, which I doubt, it may have avoided this phenomenon.         :ph34r:      

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There is a very good recycling centre near me with skips & even freight containers for certain items. One thing that hasn't helped in the fly tipping blight is the fact that councils expect commercial vehicles ,even privately owned ones, to get licensed . If council tips readily accepted waste from white van man it would save a lot of fly tipping. Most people are responsible & are more than willing to dispose of rubbish properly.

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getting permission to tip using a van is a piece of cake.  I simply phoned the relevant department ( found on WBC website) and asked for one.  They took a few details and provided me with a number to present at the gates.  No issues, no drama, no excuse.

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Well.we come under Merseyside  & i know that vans are allocated only so many trips a year to the tips & are issued with vouchers to visit a tip. Cars are unrestricted.

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6 hours ago, Davy51 said:

Well.we come under Merseyside  & i know that vans are allocated only so many trips a year to the tips & are issued with vouchers to visit a tip. Cars are unrestricted.

this is a Warrington forum, not sure what relevance the rules for Merseyside have but thanks anyway.

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2 hours ago, Davy51 said:

And there's me thinking fly tipping was a national pastime.

Have you the specifics for using a van at the tip for inverness handy?  They will be as much use as the Merseyside ones.

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On 11/26/2017 at 4:58 PM, Togger1 said:

this is a Warrington forum, not sure what relevance the rules for Merseyside have but thanks anyway.

Ahh but this topic is under 'Local & National Issues' ... 'Question Time' so Togger's post comment is relevant Davy :wink:  and Merseyside isn't far away it's so good to hear that the rules re vans using tips there are just as stupid as they are here...just saying like..... :ph34r::lol:

Maybe the staff at the tips could use some discretion re small vans.  For example when my brother went in his small vauxhall combo van (which has his business name & logos etc on it) he was simply turned away by the tip staff but why could they not have used their discretion and brains.  If they had actually bothered to look what he was trying to deposit they would have realised that the rubbish in the van WAS NOT HIS business rubbish but his general household waste.   What seemed silly was that he just drove home threw it all in his big car plus some more too and was allowed in then.   Bonkers !!   Our lad has a small van too but we can't got to the tip in that but we can go as many times as we like in Mr Dizzy's 4x4 which fits just as much crap in it with the seats down...if not more.  Maybe they will ban big cars next !!

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Perhaps that is a widespread rule regarding small commercials Dizzy ,but even relaxing the rule could save a lot of fly tipping which must cost councils more in the long run. After  all businesses pay much more council tax than many households.

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1 hour ago, Togger1 said:

Perhaps we can look forward to a guide to the nations best & most user friendly tips with a foreword by Martin Lewis. This could be the start of a new recreational & tourist boom in Britain.

" We had  a  lovely drive in the Cotswolds  & the tip in Gloucester was to die for ,Aggie ! "

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53 minutes ago, Davy51 said:

Perhaps we can look forward to a guide to the nations best & most user friendly tips with a foreword by Martin Lewis. This could be the start of a new recreational & tourist boom in Britain.

" We had  a  lovely drive in the Cotswolds  & the tip in Gloucester was to die for ,Aggie ! "

you should write it, an idiots guide perhaps :rolleyes:

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An article on the BBC news is suggesting that recycling could be more difficult in the future. Apparently.a lot of our plastic recycling is shipped to China for "processing" but China seems to be reaching saturation point  in terms of what it can & can't  accept. Hopefully ,our packaging industry  can rally round  & reduce  the bulkiness of packaging or produce something that is more easily recyclable or biodegradable.

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Perhaps we could use all the waste plastic as fuel for the Drax power station instead of importing wood chips from the USA.

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If they incinerate it in a power station it will be more cost effective than burning imported wood chips as well as having a higher calorific value than conventional fuels (including gas and oil) so any filtering required to remove toxic emissions would be cost effective. It won't be done of course because it would upset the greenies.

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Maybe that's one an idea for the 2 new bridges and new road infrastructure that comes with them  that the council have plans an high hopes for  Baz (you know the ones to allegedly combat out towns congestion...yeah right).   At least if they use all our recycled plastic etc to build it all we might get a reduction on our council tax from the money we collectively 'give' by us all using our blue bins like the good little citizens we are.   If only life were that simple eh ?

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