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Gov plans to abandon the hard shoulder provision on M/Ways, has been criticized by a transport panel of MPs as dangerous. The idea is to increase capacity on our M/Ways; but what happens in the event of a break-down or accident?  How do the emergency services get to it?      :|

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A ridiculous idea which will no doubt cause chaos on the motorways. The hard shoulder has always been a place of relative safety in a motorway emergency & now that is being taken away.We all know what the problem is,too many vehicles on the road.

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I'm confident that the probability and projected costs of major incidents involving broken down vehicles in heavy fog have been carefully weighed against the savings to be made by not upgrading our motorways, and that the government concluded that the occasional bout of carnage makes sound economic sense.

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I'm confident that the probability and projected costs of major incidents involving broken down vehicles in heavy fog have been carefully weighed against the savings to be made by not upgrading our motorways, and that the government concluded that the occasional bout of carnage makes sound economic sense.

 

Hasn't the use of the hard shoulder been used as an extra lane for a while in the midlands, however they seem to make it work, or do they? 

 

, it is quite confusing and the mandatory speed limits are sometimes questionable 

 

They want to get rid of it because it's on the left.

 

very funny

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Milky, like everything else, it'll work until something terrible happens. Then you'll get some politician saying "we need to learn from this".      8)

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I always think a very sobering thought about driving is that if we have traffic travelling at just 60 mph & an accident occurs the result is 1 mile of standing traffic in a minute.

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Not quite Dave, not all "standing traffic" but a series of shunt accidents tailing back, and no way for the Emergency Services to get to the scene.    8)

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I do an awful lot of driving on motorways and have seen accidents - both minor and fatal. The hard shoulder was never a safe place to stop anyway, just look over the years how many deaths have occurred with lorries running up the rear end of cars or mini-buses that had broken down. The Police have voiced their objections as the hard shoulder provides an easy access for them to incidents ahead....

 

sadly there will be crashes and deaths because of this, but only time will tell if it is more or less than now. Managed motorways are pretty good at slowing traffic as there are mandatory signs rather than the old orange square flashy ones that nobody ever takes notice of.

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Perhaps driverless cars might improve things ?   But somehow, unless traffic movements are centrally controlled, I can't see a resolution to the carnage that occurs, especially in bad weather.    :cry:

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