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http://www.nationalreview.com/article/436853/brexit-vote-restore-british-democracy-vote-leave

 

 

 

PJ won't need to read this - his mind is already made up. For anyone as yet undecided it makes for a good read if nothing else. As for me, well my vote was cast weeks ago so no turning back now :lol:

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Sounds like sound common sense from across the Pond Asp.    Watched an interesting TV prog about the closing stages of WW2, in which a high level meeting of Nazi economists and financiers held a meeting to decide the preferred post war options for Germany.  One of the members present, later became the President of the Iron and Steel Community.  8)

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I think many of the Remainers would have supported Moseley's Black Shirts in the Britain of the 30s & 40s  & would have welcomed the swastika flying over government buildings.

 

Do they realise that their eagerness to stay tied to this undemocratic dictatorship is directly opposed to any semblance of racial tolerance? It is more aligned to WW2 preferences for forced labour in certain parts of Europe.

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I think many of the Remainers would have supported Moseley's Black Shirts in the Britain of the 30s & 40s  & would have welcomed the swastika flying over government buildings.

 

Do they realise that their eagerness to stay tied to this undemocratic dictatorship is directly opposed to any semblance of racial tolerance? It is more aligned to WW2 preferences for forced labour in certain parts of Europe.

 

Utter crap

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But ,a dictatorship  ,whether by brutal force or bureaucratic slight of hand is still a dictatorship, & it seems that the protagonists of remain are becoming more venomous as election day approaches.

 

It all seems less & less like a referendum & more like a campaign of bullying & mass marketing for the elite of the "in crowd" to get the result that suits them & their cronies. These fat cats are not bothered about the man in the street as long as they are in the club with their snouts in the trough & have access to  an endless supply of cheap labour for their zero hour sweatshops.

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Zero Hours contracts, that's now an EU issue is it?  If a ban on them were to come it would probably have to come from the EU as this Government ain't doing squat about them.

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Unelected ,unaccountable leadership that the EU is offering is a dictatorship. To Remain means we are doomed.

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Unelected ,unaccountable leadership that the EU is offering is a dictatorship. To Remain means we are doomed.

 

no it doesn't and no it isn't. 

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Zero Hours contracts, that's now an EU issue is it?  If a ban on them were to come it would probably have to come from the EU as this Government ain't doing squat about them.

 

I think relating to zero hours contracts ,the only people who should be in a position to object to these aberrations of employment law are the unions who, strangely enough, seem to be pushing their members to vote remain in the knowledge that more migrants will be able to flood in & work as non union labour for reduced wages. It seems strange because the unions themselves will then find their membership & funds shrinking. Sounds like the epitome of turkeys voting for Christmas.

I can't see the EU doing much either because they are quite happy for Euro companies to use zero hours temporary staff.

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Zero Hours contracts, that's now an EU issue is it?  If a ban on them were to come it would probably have to come from the EU as this Government ain't doing squat about them.

But, but, but isn't the only way to protect workers rights from the evil Tories is to stay in the lovely, cuddly family friendly EU?

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But, but, but isn't the only way to protect workers rights from the evil Tories is to stay in the lovely, cuddly family friendly EU?

 

doesn't even pan out too well in English.

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It's been said, but alas it's falling on deaf ears: we owe "workers rights" to the activities of UK Trade Unions and a UK Parliament; and we also owe their maintainance to the same activity by the same organisations.     8)

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It 's fair to say that most damage to worker's rights in the UK has been done by governments of all persuasions & in some cases unions themselves have not always been the workers best friend.

On the other hand the EU has not really helped workers either.

 

The main difference though is that we can vote our government out of office, but we can't vote out an unelected body like EU bureaucrats.

 

The British electorate have a lot to blame themselves for over general elections too & lack the will to turn out & vote. We do plenty of moaning about governments but if we don't vote nothing will change & MPs will get complacent.

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The main difference though is that we can vote our government out of office,

still get the same people running the country though. the back room boys in the gov. Politicians are just the front men. it is the ministerial departments who really set out the fine detail.

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Zero Hours contracts, that's now an EU issue is it?  If a ban on them were to come it would probably have to come from the EU as this Government ain't doing squat about them.

 

off topic a bit but actually I do not think zero contract is such a bad thing, suits a lot of people. I worked zero contact for many years, used to be the case that you would just go into the unemployment office and continue your claim if you had no work. Now you have to put in a new claim, go through your interview stages and have to wait weeks for any money to come through, which puts people in difficulty.

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It think the big difference these days Milky is that the government use the ploy to get people off the dole figures. As you say,at one time you could claim dole & do a day on the agency without getting your money stopped.

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Wow, another revelation : revealing exactly what?  That some young googlers , who probably needed extra time to register to vote; had to search to discover what they were voting about, after months of TV coverage.    :lol:

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