P J Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 unbelievable. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-36550304 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freeborn John Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 Unbelievable. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-32412542 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted June 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 Unbelievable. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-32412542 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 Awful and so tragic and very sad. Not something anyone could ever have imagined or expected to happen and my heart goes out to her, her children, husband and family Absolutely shocking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 Freeborn John...just thought I'd mention that your link returns a BBC news 'page not found' error Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy51 Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 Hard to understand why someone would attack an MP who apparently is so well thought of in her constituency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fugtifino Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 Indeed, Davy. I think this may have been the link intended in #2: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-32412542 Though I can't explain anything about that either. Jo Cox seemed to have been a decent MP and a good woman, RIP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted June 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 Indeed, Davy. I think this may have been the link intended in #2: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-32412542 Though I can't explain anything about that either. Thanks for sorting that out, it's all much clearer now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted June 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 this is what James O'Brien said this morning, hard to argue with it really. If I was to be reading my newspaper every single morning and being told my very existence was under seige, by people I’ve never met and never seen but keep getting told are coming here in their hordes. If I was to open my newspaper or turn on my radio or telivision set, and told that every body who is coming here is a rapist and they’ve got their eyes on our women and we’ve got no chance whatsoever of protecting ourselves, and unless we do this or do that, or treat them like this or treat them like that, then we’re all doomed, we are all going to hell in a handcart. If I was told it’s time to reclaim our country every time I got out of bed in the morning, I would begin to believe it I think… if I didn’t have the knowledge or the insights and the education to know that it is not true. We want our country back from whom? We want our country back from when? We want our country back, how? …. Convince me if you can, that political debate in Britain in the last couple of years has NOT created an environment in which we find it easy to believe… or possible to believe, that this sort of violence, that this sort of terrorism, could unfold on our streets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 Despicable attempt by the luvvies to play politics with this sad event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted June 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 A politician is murdered for her political beliefs and you whinge about playing politics, still i suppose that's all you have to defend yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 Keep trawling google for more luvvie nonsense, the guy had mental health issues, thought your kind would feel sorry for him; alas no, when there's a political point to be scored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted June 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 I would be inclined to listen to that argument had you reacted in the same way when Lee Rigby was killed by a paranoid schizophrenic. Of course it's political, and most of what O'Brien said about the hate speak , resonates very closely with a lot of your hateful comments on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 Wow, so now a leap to drag in comment on this forum - despicable. The fact that we have mentally ill folk, supposedly receiving "care in the community"; when it evidently isn't the case, should be the point of concern; not cheap political attempts to point score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted June 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 No leap, it does sound remarkably like the hateful crap you post, it is political, or are you saying that Jo Cox' political views were of no consequence in all this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted June 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 It does highlight the hateful and fear filled narrative that has been oozing from the far Right and their supporters in all forms of the media including local forums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 No more than Lee Rigby or any other victim of such attacks. I wondered how long, in their desperation, it would take before the lefty luvvies tried to pin this on views accepted by the majority of folk (over 70% want controls on immigration); but I forget, your lot don't want to pander to populism, just have "experts" running everything, like the EU and ignore the democratic will of the people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted June 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 When Lee Rigby was murdered, who and what did you blame Observer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 Wasn't aware that the perpetrators were mentally ill; if they were, they'd be in a mental facility now, rather than prison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted June 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 Wasn't aware that the perpetrators were mentally ill; if they were, they'd be in a mental facility now, rather than prison. Addressing Adebowale during sentencing, the judge said: "I am persuaded that the combination of your lesser role, your age and your pre‐existing and continuing mental condition mean that it is not appropriate in your case to impose a whole-life term." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 So that was one of them; in which case, if he was "mentally ill", he would have been committed to a mental institution not prison; and the plea would have reflected this. next - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted June 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 You see, you didn't know that he was mentally ill did you and I am not surprised, his health was ignored in favor of his ideology , getting the picture? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 If he was mentally ill, he'd be sectioned, not in prison - catch up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fugtifino Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 Obs, in only half a dozen or so posts you've used the term twice; both, I'm guessing, in a pejorative sense. Could you please define "luvvy" for me as you understand it? Thanks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 Thought I'd used it a lot more than that Fugs ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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