observer Posted January 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 Can't ask the politicians to sort this mess out; aside from being mainly liberals living in ivory towers; they're too busy with their expenses scams and fitting up their families with jobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alana Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 People over here can not belive us when we tell them what is happening in the UK.... I am hopefully back in March/April...will be interesting to see what is going on..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little fella Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 Unfortunately Alana you are not in Europe! and we have no agreements with the USA. If you had gone to France Spain Poland you could. I heard a good story today about a Polish couple; he got a job and was working here quite legally, after a trip home his wife got pregnant. She then came to England for a 6 month visit to her husband, had the baby here because the hospital is better than in Poland. She has now gone back home to look after the rest of the family and he now claims benefits not just for the baby but for the mother as well. I just dont understand. and it does make me annoyed. Here we are saying to our own people ?you are claiming too much in invalidity payments?, means testing really sick people yet just letting money flood out the back door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 UK - now a global joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alana Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 It is so sad all that I hear now about the UK.. And very annoying when people who have worked all their lives and are having to scrimp and save and then are scared in case they have too much saved that it gets taken into account.... Sorry to say I think I am now glad that we dont live in the UK and I never thought I would feel that way...dont get me wrong the UK will always be 'home' but it is sooooo different than the UK I left nearly 15 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 True: and to rub salt in the wound, whilst doling out money to immigrants; they have the nerve to threaten indigenous disabled/sick folk with loss of benefits; plus we now have the lowest pension in the EU - this Government have turned us into a laughing stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alana Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 I am sorry to say I can only see it going worse...I really don't know what can be done to sort out the mess it seems to be in.... Maybe I am wrong thinking this but what I read and hear seems to point in that direction.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevofaz25 Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 As well as the Child Benefits being paid out, many EU migrants are also getting Tax Credits- nice little sweetener... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted February 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 Does anybody know WHO these faceless civil servants are, who actually make these stupid decisions at the sharp end? And IF it's a policy; WHY hasn't this Government moved to close all these loopholes? :confused: Â [ 10.02.2008, 13:54: Message edited by: observer ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted March 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 Apparently, immigrants claiming child allowance for their kids back in E/Europe are costing the British taxpayer ?28million Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little fella Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 There is only one answer to this problem. Get out of Europe and mine the channel. No other European country would put up with it so why the hell should we. All these people who want to be in Europe can pack their bags and go and leave this country. I am getting very angry that my standard of living is going so far down that I cannot afford to buy what I want because of the tax I am forced to pay to keep some sponging ...... from another country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted March 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 But what happens when the Government decide that these "spongers" are no longer welcome? Whatever happened to: your on the next plane to Bagdad, here's your ticket, and these burly gentlemen will be escorting you?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 Seems a committee of the "unelected" House of Lords have concluded that "immigration has had little or no economic benefits for the UK". So it's taken around three years for the penny to drop with the Lords, who are now calling for a cap on immigration; but the New Labour Commons, who created this open door debacle, are still in denial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 I thought we told them that eons ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 We did indeed, and it's somewhere in this topic; pearls before swine and all that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 Thing is, the Committee got paid for their report...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 Indeed, but it's a rare thing in this PC world of ours, for any "paid" politician to vent the truth on this matter; the Government are STILL in denial. Â [ 02.04.2008, 22:30: Message edited by: observer ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 4, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2008 Live in the wilds of China? So much for this Government's Immigration Policy - none existent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harmless loony Posted April 5, 2008 Report Share Posted April 5, 2008 If "foreigners" are no good for the UK why was all the backlog of baggage at Heathrow sent to Italy to be sorted? Are the British incapable of sorting out their own mess? Seems like you do need some foreigners here after all! Â Why couldn't some of the indigenous people have been given a temp contract to work towards sorting out the baggage issue? Â Someone needs to total up what the "immigrants" are doing - ie: 25% of the NHS is made up of foreign doctors and nurses. If we packed everyone off out of the country tomorrow - do you really think you would be able to sustain the economy and country alone? Â Anyone know how "immigrant" was defined in that report? Makes it easier to see their calculations..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted April 5, 2008 Report Share Posted April 5, 2008 Immigration...it's all a question of balance and management. Â I understand the baggage sent to Italy is for destinations in mainland Europe, giving BA the benefit of doubt, there might be method in their madness....of course others might say, to avoid continuing embarrassment best to get the luggage as far from Heathrow as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2008 Seems, like the Government HL, you've not rationalised the situation: "immigrants" fall into several groups: 1) EU Nationals: allowed in without any restrictions, because of the Government's earlier thoughtless commitment to an "open door" policy and the free movement of labour dictat of the EU. These are basically economic migrants, some with skills, some without; prepared to be exploited by employers as cheap labour; and claiming benefits to send home or bringing families (none English speaking), to add pressure to our schools and hospitals. Oh yes, most work and pay taxes, but this is easily counter balanced by the costs of services and benefits EG: Education per child ?5,0000pa. 3) However, should those in catagory "2" experience difficulties staying here, they cry "assylum" and stay for years whilst human rights lawyers pursue their case through the courts on the back of legal aid - paid for by the taxpayer. This catagory are NOT allowed to work, and are paid in food vouchers by the hosts. International "assylum" rules require travel to the "next nearest" safe Country; but these "assylum seekers" will have travelled half way round the world to reach their objective - the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted May 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 Seems a Commons select cttee, has criticised the fact that there are no checks on numbers coming in to the UK, or numbers going out - basically a complete shambles, showing that the Government havn't got a clue - maybe we should have a few nightclub doormen running things?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Jack Hackett Posted May 30, 2008 Report Share Posted May 30, 2008 I believe the last time anyone tried that approach in Europe he had a silly brush tash and wore baggy trouser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted May 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2008 Thought Charlie Chaplin made his career in films?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonymaillman Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 Seems a Commons select cttee, has criticised the fact that there are no checks on numbers coming in to the UK, or numbers going out - basically a complete shambles, showing that the Government havn't got a clue - maybe we should have a few nightclub doormen running things?! Â So why is it so difficult for a person to try and obtain work permits for this country if they are from the West ?? i.e. America ........... or is the 'open invite' only to those from the East and 'dead end' parts of Europe ??? it seems there's no end to that side !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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