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Seems around two thirds of the world's population don't have access to basic surgery facilties or qualified surgeons; which poses the question, should we be denuding third world countries of medical staff for the NHS?

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I find it beautiful that you are showing such touching concern for third world people and their health care. Good for you.

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No probs helping folk to live and stay in their own Countries; point is, we're stealing their skilled medics, instead of training (and retaining) our own.

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No we shouldn't, but people from 3rd world countries come to Britain to train to be doctors. If they find that once trained they can have a better life staying in Britain than if they went back home, then who could blame them? It's only human nature after all.

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It's human nature Asp, for a bloke to want to come into your home on a cold Winter's day for a warm; doesn't follow though, that he stays the night !

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It's human nature Asp, for a bloke to want to come into your home on a cold Winter's day for a warm; doesn't follow though, that he stays the night !

Even if he provides the coal and tends the fire?

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Just how stupid can you get: they're depriving their own countries of their skills; populations with much more need; so nothing altruistic involved here.

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:rolleyes:  :rolleyes:  :rolleyes:

 

yeah, like you are bothered about third world countries and their health services.

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Says you.  It's a fairly rational position to suggest that each Nation in the world trains and retains it's skilled medical staff; then perhaps their living standards will improve. Much preferable to the global anarchy you appear to favour.

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I am sorry, I mistook your genuine and touching concern for third world people for a thinly veiled anti immigration rant. Will we be banning all British people from moving abroad to live and work too?  

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Well actually - YES, in a way.  Folk who've had the benefit of education and training at the tax-payer's expense, should be required to pay back the cost prior to emigrating imo - seems quite a reasonable requirement.

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It would be quite difficult to calculate how much the education and training of people actually costs the state, especially in the case of people who work while in training to defray the costs. Also you are suggesting closing our borders to emigration - sounds a bit like the good old USSR and Red China (not to mention the workers paradise that is North Korea) to me.

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Errm, not quite Asp, I didn't say "close our borders to emigration";  just ensure those who aquired training and skills at tax-payer's expense, reimburse the tax-payer prior to leaving. Otherwise, in effect, we finish up subsidising the Ozzy & other Health Services. Think you'll find that, if required, these sums can be easily quantified, even to the point of reductions for time spent working here.  

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Well actually - YES, in a way.  Folk who've had the benefit of education and training at the tax-payer's expense, should be required to pay back the cost prior to emigrating imo - seems quite a reasonable requirement.

That's exactly what you said. "Should be required to pay back the cost prior to emigrating." In other words, pay to be allowed to leave. Very USSR imo.

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Would the price to leave the country also include any education you have received here too?

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Not "paid to be allowed to leave" paid back for education and training provided by the tax-payer,( skills that won't be available for the population); which in a sense already happens to an extent with Uni fees. btw Asp, thought you were a defender of "the tax-payer" ?!

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So every fireman, police officer, teacher, civil servants, army, navy and airforce personnel , people like this, all prisoners to their country unless they can fork out many thousands of pounds to pay for all the training they have received.  How will a fighter pilot pay back the £4million he costs to train?  

 

When you look at it , its just another bonkers idea .

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Most of the  jobs you cited will be fixed period careers anyway; and in the case of the military require pay back for early leavers, so already apply the principle. Most fighter pilots will continue their flying careers ferrying holiday makers back and to, thus providing service to the tax paying public. Still. no more bonkers an idea than allowing the world and his dog to enter the UK ! .   :lol:

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Absolute nonsense then as usual.  The military require that you see out the contract you signed up to but offer a buy out option for people who have a change of heart.  These pilots you intend to use to fly holiday makers around the world,  do you not think they might defect from your Stalinist State  ? Placing all public servants under a form of country arrest unless they can afford many thousands if not millions to enable them to leave is frankly one of your more moronic brain farts.  

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Well actually - YES, in a way.  Folk who've had the benefit of education and training at the tax-payer's expense, should be required to pay back the cost prior to emigrating imo - seems quite a reasonable requirement.

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Errm, nope PJ a brain fart is allowing everyone and his dog into the UK, thus increasing the those already here, to wish to escape !  Notice you accept that the "buy out" principle is employed by the military already !

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without the contribution of non-British staff, many NHS services would struggle to provide effective care to their patients.

 

3 and a bit years since I posted this and someone just saw fit to give it a red arrow.  Well done you, not only for being such a grown up, but for taking the time to trawl back all those many thousands of forum posts to find it.  Can't knock your diligence, only your lack of intelligence.

for the record,  the statement, which you may not like, was true then and remains so.

 

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