P J Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Here are a few figures to digest. The war in Syria has displaced an estimated 9 million people. Some have fled to neighbouring countries and others to relatively safer parts of Syria. Over 3 million have fled to Jordan,Iraq,Turkey and Lebanon. Lebanon now has a quarter of its entire population made up of displaced Syrians. The entire EU has only granted asylum to 150,000 mostly in Germany and Sweden although even a poor country like Bulgaria has had to care for over 6000. The city of Istanbul has 330,000 Syrian refugees. There is a great deal being done within the neighbouring states but they can only cope with so much. In total only 4% of the refugees have been offered refuge in the EU. How many of the 9 million souls have the UK offered refuge to? Hold on to your hats as this number is staggering. As of july 2014 when these figures were produced, our country had offered places to 24. A couple of dozen, makes me so proud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Right on Baz ! The EU is now asking the Turkish authorities how they missed these migrant ships leaving their ports. Perhaps the Turkish Authorities were busy caring for the 1.6 million displaced Syrians it has within its borders and hadn't the time to be checking the cargo of all the ships. Just a thought like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Seems the UK Gov are doing something right then ?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 yes, if you are vile enough to consider that right then I suppose they must be. It doesn't stop you banging on about them flooding in though does it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Still flooding in, at a net rate of 250,000 per year and you evidently want more; thankfully your in a minority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 From Syria? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 or do you mean the net contributors to the coffers from the EU? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Syria? From all over the world - looking for "a better life". Likewise from the EU, looking for higher pay. The lifeboat's full matey, and most folk now recognise it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 And our economy benefits from them too. It has helped our economy to perform as well as it has. If you can get past the fact that they look or sound a bit different from us the money they generate is marvellous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 You obviously need to cling on to that notion, I don't. Illegals applying for asylum aren't even allowed "to work" and are paid in vouchers; so won't be paying any tax at all; they will however be consumers of taxation via public services; so I hope we can put them to one side. Then of course we have the myth, that all EU migrants are in well paid jobs, paying top rates of tax; no doubt true in the case of professionals, but alas not for the guy handwashing your car. Then of course, there's the black market, which by it's very nature won't provide revenue for the exchequer, and constitute a part of the population that aren't on anyone's radar, including HMG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 It isn't illegal to apply for asylum, over 5000 have now done so from Syria, not many as that is from the beginning of the war. sound a lot but when you consider that 100,000 have applied for asylum to Germany and Sweden perhaps you concede that as far as Syrians go we aren't the land of milk and honey that you claim. Eu immigrants, as I have shown you , contribute greatly to our economy. You can still hate immigration from the EU, thats your right but you can't say they cost the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Did I say it was "illegal" to apply for asylum? Applying for asylum is the first move after illegal entry, helped by HR lawyers paid for out of tax-payer funded legal aid. Unfortunately, the time taken by the civil service can mean years of waiting, for a decision.; years that are funded by the tax-payer. Think we've bottomed the "contribute to the economy" line, you think they do, most doubt they do. And that's the dilemma for the politicians; cos even if you are right; the public perception is one of being swamped by a surge of immigration, placing additional burdens on our public services; and rightly or wrongly, perceptions = votes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Immigrants are part of the lifeblood of our public services. Syrians are applying and being accepted for asylum and then flying to Germany and Sweden and here too but in very limited numbers.. I am not discussing votes but people and what is right and wrong. Then again I'm not a politician, failed or otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Is this thread still in Jokes and Quizzes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 First thing this morning, there was a tap on my door. Funny sense of humour my plumber has. Has that helped, or are you more confused? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Is this thread still in Jokes and Quizzes? Yes... I was going to move but as there was more of the same going on on the other sections I decided to leave it here, out of the way, so it would just disappear with time. Then you blummin' went and posted on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Good joke by the way Wolfie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 1x Joke. 4x Topical replies to the joke. 33x Off topic and infantile squabbling replies that have nothing to do with the joke. 4x Replies regarding the off topic squabbling replies. All this in a section supposed to be for jokes and quizzes. In my opinion this is what has driven members away resulting in this forum going down faster than the Titanic!. PS. I do like your 'Tap on the door' joke Wolfe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 I can't believe you actually sat there and counted them all Algy especially so early in the morning ... are you really that bored Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 Was that a joke or a quiz algy? I counted 2 jokes ????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 Shhhhh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 Was that a joke or a quiz algy? I counted 2 jokes ????? Obs made a joke, a very rare occurence may I say. and yours was a reply with a sort of joke, again difficult to tell as it usually borders on scarcasm . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 My wife once said "Sarcasm will get you nowhere in life," "Well, it got me to the 'International Sarcasm' finals in in London 2009, 2010 and 2011," I informed her."Really?" she asked."No," I replied. Does that count as 3 jokes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 My God! have I really missed this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 Come on alg, at least it's free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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