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The Farmers Arms near Lymm village is starting to look sad. Been a couple of rapidly fading attempts at business. Owners want £49k PA RENT!! Guess It'll soon be "can't get tenants, so have to demolish and build D band housing" WBC will go yummy money and sod the local wishes.

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Pub,no more houses.The former garage is to be houses and supermarket and I suppose, following the amazing fire, the Railway Hotel site will follow summat similar. Re.the Railway, the JCBs were onsite before the fire engine had left.What efficiency.

 

 

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Is that the one on Rushgreen Road as you head out of Lymm towards Heatley Mere that looks really old ?

If it's that one it's right next to the all the large new housing developments so you'd think it would do well as a pub now especially if it does nice food .  Saying that if it went up for sale a developer would snap that up for housing without a doubt as it's a big plot of land.  Is the large field next to it theirs too ?

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I THINK the field is theirs too. The two attempts at the Farmers were for some grandiose cookery and I think the second went bust before opening! The first attempt had a sign,"come in for a beer ".We did, dear crap keg. Notice the large field opposite the ex garage now car wash hasn't had a crop in years? Brownfield site so get the houses in easy.

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If the locals don't support or use the pub,its going to shut down leaving it open for development. In some places I have seen resident groups take over and run pubs very successfully.  Just an idea.

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Mr Dizzy said it was all done up inside a couple of years ago and turned into an Italian restaurant and pub.  (Marco's ?? or something like).

I don't go over that way very often so have never been in.... mmm how does he know though :shock:  :lol:  

 

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sorry posted at the same time again....... am I talking about the wrong place  :oops:

No your not it was Marco's and went bust owing us money!!! :(

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So now I know I've got the right building.... is there nobody in it now then ?

The Marco's website say it's 300 years old so I'd guess that means it's grade listed by English Heritage then is it ?  If so then at least it can't be knocked down.. well unless it's left empty to fall into disrepair and rot away of course. 

It does look a lovely building from the outside and it's show as being called the 'Farmers Arms' on a lot of the really old maps too.

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How do I find out if the Farmers is listed marra? At the moment the building is in good nick apart from a collapsed barge board at one end.When Marco Markup and its successor failed the pub sign was put back up which gave us hope for a while.

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Having lived in Lymm for more years than I care to remember and wearing my Librarian of the Local History Society hat, I've never heard reference to the Farmers building being 300 years old !!! As far as I know its not on Warrington Borough Council's Locally Listed register. A building is shown on the Tithe map, c1840,  but I've not determined if it was pub then. It could either have been this

 

Township: Lymm. Parish: Lymm. Plot №: 220a. Owner: John Robinson. Occupier: John Collinge. Plot Name: Cottage & Garden. Land Use: Building and Garden. Area: 0 acres, 0 roods, 24 perches.

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Township: Lymm . Parish: Lymm .Plot №: 220. Owner: John Robinson. Occupier: Amos Ogden. Plot Name: Cottage. Land Use: Building. Area:

0 acres, 0 roods, 2 perches.

 

Joe

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garys quote No your not it was Marco's and went bust owing us money!!! :(

gary you'll have to stop being nice to people and stop giving them credit

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I can't fin any reference to it being listed either.  You obviously know the area well Joe and as you are into your local history then you will know a lot more about it than me.

My reference to the age of the building was based on info on the Marco's website where they said... quote " Marco Marco has sympathetically restored the former Farmers Arms, retaining the natural charm of the 300-year-old former hostelry while adding a bright, fresh twist........ "

It's an odd thing for them to say if it's not true though don't you think as surely the owners (either Marco's or whatever pub chain/person actually owned it) would have details about it on the land registry deeds etc.  Maybe they just wanted it to sound older than it is to their customers.

Mmm I wonder if I can find my land registry username and password to download the info... I'm inrigued now.. well ok nosey :lol:

The oldest map I can find the Farmers Arms on is 1873, it may well be on earlier ones too but I don't have any of those to look at.  

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