observer Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 Just as I was getting used to and enjoying the emerging café culture in the Town Centre; seems the Council are considering taking us back by allowing alcohol sales; think we used to call such places pubs. We've got "pubs" already, and while pavement tables and chairs may be fine, at least for those who like a fag with their pint (weather providing of course); do we really want to extend booze to the rest of the cafes? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 are you reffering to todays article. http://www.warrington-worldwide.co.uk/articles/19387/1/Pavement-cafes-may-serve-drinks-without-meals/Page1.html What I am unsure of is the times. Who would want to sit out at nine in the morning drinking in the street, especially when there are signs up all over the town centre saying that the streets are a no alcohol zone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latchford Locks Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 Just as I was getting used to and enjoying the emerging café culture in the Town Centre; seems the Council are considering taking us back by allowing alcohol sales; think we used to call such places pubs. We've got "pubs" already, and while pavement tables and chairs may be fine, at least for those who like a fag with their pint (weather providing of course); do we really want to extend booze to the rest of the cafes? No we dont.!!! Or else Golden Square could become Bridge St Mark 2 (Heaven Forbid) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 So where did this café culture craze originate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 Not a "craze", a culture; that can be experienced in most Continental cities. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 Ah yes, the cafes in continental cities and their alcohol free menus ha. They virtually all serve wine, beer and spirits, I have partaken of many myself over the years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 Yes, but they appear mature enough to cope with a glass of wine; unfortunately our yob culture has difficulty with drink. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latchford Locks Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 Yes, but they appear mature enough to cope with a glass of wine; unfortunately our yob culture has difficulty with drink. Vienna and Innsbruck being two prime examples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 Yes, but they appear mature enough to cope with a glass of wine; unfortunately our yob culture has difficulty with drink. Wow, I am impressed at how broad a brush you wield to make your sweeping generalisations, this time about " Da Yoof". Young people have always gone out and congregated together in wherever was trendy, even in my day but I don't think that it will be the young who frequent the cafe bar scene to be honest. I ventured into Wetherspoons one morning for a breakfast and it was full of boozers already on the lash, none of them were under 40. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latchford Locks Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 Wow, I am impressed at how broad a brush you wield to make your sweeping generalisations, this time about " Da Yoof". Young people have always gone out and congregated together in wherever was trendy, even in my day but I don't think that it will be the young who frequent the cafe bar scene to be honest. I ventured into Wetherspoons one morning for a breakfast and it was full of boozers already on the lash, none of them were under 40. Oh I see your point Bless the little darlings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 Oh I see your point Bless the little darlings. I thank you for so eloquently proving my point. http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2008/aug/27/foodanddrink.france Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 not all young people are drunken yobs, quite the opposite in the main. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 Tell you what Mr. Locks, pick me a roll model from this cross section of age groups Try todo it using the persons age as the only relevant attribute. This is what its like when you take extremes as the norm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grey_man Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 not all young people are drunken yobs, quite the opposite in the main. Totally agree. What's that damn pub on Bridge Street where a load of grubby middle aged p***heads hang out all day long? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 The Feathers? The Lion? Take your pick, go check out Wetherspoons if you want more anecdotal cack to back up your cack argument , my wife has the not so envious task of having to treat middle aged pissheads every working day. Youth has no monopoly on alcohol abuse. Never took you for a bigot just a blowhard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 Is the idea of these pavement 'drinking' cafe's in Warrington to entice more families into the town centre at night ? I'm guessing young kids would be allowed to go to them if the parents are drinking outdoors on the streets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grey_man Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 The Feathers? The Lion? Take your pick, go check out Wetherspoons if you want more anecdotal cack to back up your cack argument , my wife has the not so envious task of having to treat middle aged pissheads every working day. Youth has no monopoly on alcohol abuse. Never took you for a bigot just a blowhard I think you might be missing the point. Not for the first time. I'm agreeing with you. No group has a monopoly on alcoholism, bad behaviour or whatever. And don't get personal again. It just runs the forum down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 Think we're talking about "pavement cafes"; and an environment suitable for all age groups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 so the no alcohol zones signs will be coming down if this goes ahead then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 There are no alcohol zone signs up in Stockton Heath but the pubs and cafe's allow drinking outside their premises. Some have little barriers that they put up to cordon off the pavement areas so it must be ok if you do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 I would think that a change in the "no alcohol" zone bylaw would make up part of the licencing application in said areas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 I think it would be a pleasant way to spend an hour and if it isn't then it will fail anyhow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 I suppose it depends where they are and what the views like. Nice place for all the smokers to sit too especially if there are heaters to keep everyone warm and cozy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 So, we've already got boozers with seating outside; so why increase their numbers? You need to think back to when "no alcohol" zones were first being advocated; it was a time when a myopic Labour Gov scrapped closing times, which resulted in the ruination of most Town Centres in the Country; and the antics of dead heads where shown nightly on TV news. That may have reduced somewhat, as most of the performers will now be awaiting liver transplants. As for heaters, not sure they work Diz, which leaves the idea dependent on the weather (Summer only); although we may get some sun this week-end, according to reports. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 Oh where did the romance go Obs? A steaming mug of cocoa , all wrapped up, steam clouds as you breath, gazing longingly int the eyes of the one you love while watching the world go by? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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