algy Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 The inevitable has happened, the Salford lad Alan Henning was executed yesterday. Any of our learned and wise members have an answer to this situation in the middle east?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 nukes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inky pete Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 Ebola. Given the fundamentalist ragheads aversion to modern medical care it should be particularly effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 :roll: ffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inky pete Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 :roll: ffs Critcism with no alternative suggestion? :roll: :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 Your suggestion is so pathetic I struggled for words to describe why it was so. You think it a wise idea to unleash a deadly virus onto large parts of the earth in order to hopefully kill whoever killed that poor bloke from Salford. How will you deliver your Biological weapon? Bomb every area where Isis are, were, might be? Infect the whole Middle East for a start? Then sit back and watch it spread as people form a mass exodus to seek help? Destroy civilisation as we know it? Great plan. A completely stupid kneejerk reaction. To be honest its about as dumb as I have heard on here and that's quite an achievement. As for me offering an alternative suggestion, I have no answers. The difference is I am not arrogant or stupid enough to think I do. Sometimes it's better to keep quiet and let people wonder if you are dense than it is to open your gob and remove all doubt..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 I've really no idea what the solution could be or even if there is one. They are barbaric and pure evil and will stop at nothing and they seem to be growing in numbers and spreading by the day. Apart from the more obvious ones how on earth will any force find them all and stop them all.... I don't think they will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 So the complete eradication of all the different people and peoples from the Middle East is fair game to give you a chance to kill some terrorists? I despair as would Allan Henning, I imagine, as these were the very people he was trying to help. Babies and children should never be considered expendable or collateral , not if you consider yourself civilised Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 Clearly these nut cases need to be totally eradicated, to the last man and woman; whether that's possible with just air power and poorly armed local ground forces is open to question. Turkey, Syria, Iran and Saudi; need to be involved in a political settlement (and perhaps donate forces) in Iraq, to provide a three way division of the country - Kurds, Sunnis and Sheite. However, the real preventative fight is further upstream; very difficult to kill an idea; but despite the fact that this is a distortion of a religion, religious sectarianism is still the basis of the ideology. So, time we developed a totally secular education system in this country; with no public financial support for any religion. Also, extreme web sites need to be challenged by rational argument from those who adhere to the peacefull nature of a given religion. But, in the short term - folk should just avoid these areas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 But you can't do that with atom bombs or Biological warfare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inky pete Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 We have Zmapp, and within a year or so will have other treatments plus an Ebola vaccine. They don't, and with their ideological rejection of scientific endeavour and industrialisation they never will. If they want the fruits of our ideology they can come and play by our rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 :roll: ffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 Errm, PJ, I didn't suggest atom bombs or ebola btw. This could take some time, even assuming the West was prepared to put boots on the ground. However, properly armed and trained local forces could probably do the job, with US air support. But this needs to be backed by the main players in the region - Turkey, Iran, Syria (Assad) and the Saudis. It may be difficult to put the Blair/Bush genie back in the bottle; but we need to recognise the stupidity behind imagining that these medieval cultures can sustain liberal democracies and recognise that the lesser of evils is some secular tyrant like Assad. After all, it took us over 300 years to arrive at the mother of parliaments, so it may be too much to expect these countries to do it in 3 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 Errm, PJ, I didn't suggest atom bombs or ebola btw. This could take some time, even assuming the West was prepared to put boots on the ground. However, properly armed and trained local forces could probably do the job, with US air support. But this needs to be backed by the main players in the region - Turkey, Iran, Syria (Assad) and the Saudis. It may be difficult to put the Blair/Bush genie back in the bottle; but we need to recognise the stupidity behind imagining that these medieval cultures can sustain liberal democracies and recognise that the lesser of evils is some secular tyrant like Assad. After all, it took us over 300 years to arrive at the mother of parliaments, so it may be too much to expect these countries to do it in 3 years. No, I know you didn't Observer and I'm sorry Imade it look like I inferred so. Inky Pete seems to think that infecting and killing up to 360 million people (population of middle East and North Africa,) a fair price to pay to get revenge on some disgusting monsters. Oh and the 360 million is just for starters as I am sure the virus would spread beyond ink lines on a map. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freeborn John Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 As long as the neck sawing savages keep getting instant top billing in the Western media they'll carry on doing it. If the first murder had been stifled with a video ban and a bare report that 'A Western hostage is reported to have been killed by extremists' that would have been the end of it. I have to wonder if the authorities are playing this up to gain public support for their activities in the Middle East. After the case of the non existent WMDs in Iraq which Blair used to justify the attack on that country, I suspect they're capable of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 As long as the neck sawing savages keep getting instant top billing in the Western media they'll carry on doing it.If the first murder had been stifled with a video ban and a bare report that 'A Western hostage is reported to have been killed by extremists' that would have been the end of it. I have to wonder if the authorities are playing this up to gain public support for their activities in the Middle East. After the case of the non existent WMDs in Iraq which Blair used to justify the attack on that country, I suspect they're capable of it. A breath of fresh air and common sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy51 Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 These maniacs need to be obliterated ,but i think it should be their Arab neighbours leading the assault to try & nullify the sentiment within these people that the west are the bad boys all the time. The Arabs need to impress on their brethren that times have moved on & religion no longer makes the world go round. I honestly can't see any further than ground combat to rid the world of these butchers because terrorism on this scale can't be tolerated. I do wonder though how a country that is downsizing its army in favour of territorials could sustain anything more than a peace keeping mission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted October 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 This large group of barbarians calling themselves the 'Islamic State Group' are not a disorganised rabble, they armed themselves with up to date US weaponry from the Iraqi army barracks when the Iraqis fled, they are not walking the streets with collecting boxes asking for donations for their fanatical cause so someone is funding this organisation, who?, find that source and stop it, perhaps the reluctant to fight Arab sheiks have a smelly finger in the pie, someone must have an idea!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 They are a Sunni organisation, and have allegedly received funding from the Saudis, either formally or informally. However, that may be drying up, now that they've become an embarrassment. They do have control of a few oil wells, to sell cheaply on the black market, but I don't know who's buying it. Given their level of recruitment and support globally, we can assume funds as well as martyrs will find their way to the Caliphate. That's why it's important to get the Saudis and Gulf States on board to eradicate this cancer. Not to forget of course, they will get funds from ransoms, from countries like France and Italy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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