P J Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 I'm not engaging in the schoolgirl hysterics that your ilk appear to do. IF this guy has broken the law, then the police should be involved - IF not, it's free speech, one of the refreshing aspects of UKIP, is they've not yet been straight jacketed by political correctness. Really so why have they sacked this shining example of humanity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 Because, he's upset Nigel's bid for respectability, or did that escape you? Think he's got more important things to deal with, than to be constantly distracted by such trivia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 Toerag is far too kind, but even toerags and others of their ilk find immediate support from the Forum numpty.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 A bid for respectability?? Now what does that say about him then ? if he needs to bid for it he obviously has none to start with???????????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 Not in the sense of PC respectability; candidates being aware of every single word they say, just in case it's distorted by the press and the luvvies. The problem is of course, they'll finish up turning into the very thing they despise in the main parties; but hopefully not before their purpose is served. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 What a crock, nothing was twisted by the press the actual tweets were put up for viewing so your racist chum deserves all he gets and so does the party he represented and was also the figurehead for in their party political broadcast. How many more excuses will you lot have to make before you realise what a rag tag bunch of extreme bigots and numpties UKIP are??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 Did I say "twisted by the press"; I'm merely alluding to the fact that they and your ilk are waiting to pounce on every word you consider offensive, as part of your PC police function. Well, it's called free speech, and providing it's within the boundaries of the civil and criminal law, you really need to get over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 Accusations of racism are nothing new for any party.... they all get fingers pointed at them at election time. In this day and age, everyone is a racist and there will always be someone there to throw the accusations around.... Labour, Tory, LibDems.... even the Green Party! http://www.libdemvoice.org/reading-labour-party-racist-innuendo-leaflet-27982.html http://swns.com/news/lib-dem-councillor-accused-racism-slamming-labours-scottish-candidate-34812/ http://www.tottenhamjournal.co.uk/news/wood_green_councillor_found_guilty_of_reckless_racism_slur_pauline_gibson_labour_noel_park_1_3283935 www.telegraph.co.uk%2Feducation%2Fsecondaryeducation%2F10011977%2FPolice-to-investigate-Tory-councillors-racist-comments-about-boarding-school-for-inner-city-pupils.html&ei=kd1bU7TvBumd7Qah5IAQ&usg=AFQjCNG-Ly6T61Y1YEvwSc0Wqe34A-Dqcw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 Did I say "twisted by the press"; I'm merely alluding to the fact that they and your ilk are waiting to pounce on every word you consider offensive, as part of your PC police function. Well, it's called free speech, and providing it's within the boundaries of the civil and criminal law, you really need to get over it. you actually said distorted, it wasnt it was put up in its entirity and obnoxious morons such as that have no place in the running of a civilised society Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 Not very liberal sentiments for a liberal ! I've noticed "liberals" tend to be the least tolerant of other opinions, to the point of censorship. Fortunately "free speech" is still a right (just) in this Country, so you really need to get used to being offended ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 I have never voted Liberal in my life. Have you ever voted for a Fascist or Nazi party, just to return the compliment. Back to the issue, UKIP, probably the most extreme party in these forthcoming elections saw fit to choose an extremist, racist anti islamic purveyor of hate as one of their council candidates. The hierarchy at said extremist party have since declared that they were wrong to do so, that their systems of selection failed and that the moron in question should be expelled from the party for his " repellent" views. Now, even knowing all this you come here and defend this twonk and stand behind his statements and play the "free speech" card. I can only assume that you do this as you yourself were also sacked off by a political party because you became an absolute embarrassment and an object of ridicule yourself. Well as they say birds of a feather flock together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fugtifino Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 Whether it's welcome or not, I'm shoulders with PJ here. More UKIP racism: http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/apr/27/ukip-farage-racism-lenny-henry-politics-europe xkcd on free speech: http://xkcd.com/1357/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 There you go again, diving in: I've never said I agreed with his comments, merely his right to say what he likes within the law. And you don't have to be a LibDum to be a liberal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 Well as I've just read on another forum; when people slag off and call UKIP, calling them the lowest of the low..... just who exactly are they comparing UKIP with? The Lib Dems....yes we will do this and yes we will do that (oh, chance of a bit of power here chaps, hide that manifesto; PDQ) The Tories..... It's all Labours fault..... Labour..... It's all the Tory lead governments fault (hoping that the voters forget the mess they made of things last time).... oh and don't forget 1997 when they totally sold out all of their Labour principles to take the middle ground and suck up to the middle classes at the expense of the so called working class.... Blairs chancers; absolutely desperate for power at any price But on the whole, the European Parliament is a perfect match for UKIP - a meaningless parliament full of bullshitters from the left, right & centre 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 so Baz what you are saying is that UKIP are just bullshittters, mainly right wing of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 They're certainly right of course ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 The EU parliament is not a meaningless parliament, You elect people to it as you do to Westminster, Are you that frightened of being out voted in the EU, I thought you believed in democracy Baz, as in all democracies you will win votes and lose votes, There is no point in voting for UKIP in the European parliament as they are hardly ever their, so you will not be represented, They will not be looking after your interests, you should vote for someone who actually be their voting for or against new EU legislation, UKIP just claim the money and try to wreck everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 I thought you believed in democracy Baz, priceless....... so the EU is democratic now is it? I must have missed that one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 Kije, suggest you google "EU structure"; and you'll discover just how undemocratic and beaurocratic the set up is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 Not that much different from our own Obs, MPs get to vote on legislation, same as the UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 Obs when you stood as a labour councillor were you just after what you could screw out of the council in the way of expenses, you know a bit-like Nigel is doing now No wonder your so bitter, you missed the gravy train Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 Nigel gets the same allowances as other MEPs; are you saying they're not "screwing" the EU? Think you need to make your mind up. You obviously haven't googled the EU structure, it's a hell of a lot different and more complex, but I'll give you time for another look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 MePs vote on new legislation OBS as the vote over here Can i take it you were just going for the expenses on the Council front Obs, what a Laugh you trying to be a Labour Councillor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 Tut tut, getting quite desperate now Kije ! It's quite evident that you folk have lost the substansive argument, and are now trawling the social media for "racist" comments; or trying to smear UKIP with allegations of impropriety. Thankfully, it doesn't appear to be working going by the polls - but we'll await the real poll on 22nd May ! btw. it's fairly obvious that you've not looked into the EU structure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 I have not trawled anything Obs, when impropriety is alleged on other political parties, you are all over it like a rash on here, when someone or the media have ago at your beloved Nigel, it's mud throwing. Your not even consistent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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