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Nissan today

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-24859486

 

The UK largest car manufacturer.

 

Bit of a scaremongering story??

 

 

"This is not the first time that Mr Ghosn has linked Nissan's UK investment to the country's role within the EU.

In October 2002, he told the BBC News website that the Sunderland plant's future would depend on whether the UK adopted the euro.

However, the UK has continued to use the pound and Nissan is still making cars in Sunderland"

 

Kije, if the EU was a trading block; I would be the first to shout out in appreciation; countries helping each other to better all of our economies..... however, the common market our parents were conned into voting for is now just a distant dream. The master plan of the 70's politicians is now coming to pass.

 

Britain traditionally does not like to be ruled by others.... however we are now almost entirely ruled by massively overpaid and unelected people in Brussels. That is not right. What gives those people the democratic right to dictate our laws? We have never voted for any of them. The French, Danes, Belgians and the Irish all gave their true feelings at the ballot box and were forced into capitulating.... The EU and our government are scared because of that; they know that if the British people vote to come out; we will not stand by and allow them to keep us in with meaningless promises...

 

Get the EU disbanded and get us back to a trading partnership and everyone will be happy

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Unfortunately Baz, this is the kind of scare tactics that the pro-EU lobby will deploy in any referendum - question is, will the voters fall for it?

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will they fall for the anti EU scare tactics instead?  but I suppose its only a scare tactic if it doesn't match your own agenda.  :wink:

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Your dipping the question Obs, you want jobs, Nissan MD has said he would re consider being over here if we left the EU, it is our biggest car manufacturer, how many jobs would you give up to get your wish Obs, or how many jobs would it take to make you change your mind, most foreign companies came here to gain access to the single market.

 

I look forward to your answer with great intrest :wink:

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Do you believe in tariffs or free trade, simple question?  As for Nissan, if they start threatening a pull out, we could just nationalise it - without compensation !

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Your dipping the question Obs, you want jobs, Nissan MD has said he would re consider being over here if we left the EU, it is our biggest car manufacturer, how many jobs would you give up to get your wish Obs, or how many jobs would it take to make you change your mind, most foreign companies came here to gain access to the single market. I look forward to your answer with great intrest :wink:

 

The MD of Nissan has a track record.... "In October 2002, he told the BBC News website that the Sunderland plant's future would depend on whether the UK adopted the euro"

 

we ain't in it and Nissan are still here

 

What are the chances of a company that size picking up their toys and moving just because we aren't in the EU? The costs would be astronomical and could well be as much as any additional tariffs they incur. Plus they may choose a country that may themselves decide to pull out of the EU once Britain leaves. Companies that size don't take such huge gambles

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I think he is actually starting a softening up process ready for the day when Nissan moves to the Eastern European car factories that are already being built in readiness. When the time is right for them, Nissan will move out regardless of whether we are in the EU or not, using the excuse of "uncertainty" and pointing to the warnings they have already given.

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He has already indicated that Nissan is willing to drop the UK like a hot brick, all he needs is an excuse - real or imagined. The work forces in the Balkans are certainly cheaper and I believe car manufacturing is mainly computerised these days anyway.

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At the moment they are committed to staying, but if we leave the EU, who knows. Its a fact that he came here to see the new investment he put into the plant, and not scare tactics that Obs tried and failed to say.

 

Obs

 

 How many UK people to loose there jobs for you to change your mind and say better in the EU????????

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Lt Kije, do you think that Nissan would ONLY move out of the UK if the UK left the EU? Even if the opportunity was there to make their cars more profitably in, for example, Romania or Bulgaria? If you think that is the case then I can only again wonder at your gullibility. Nissan is not in the business of making cars for the sake of it, they are in it for the profits to be had, the same as any other business. Whether or not the UK is in the EU is just a red herring. Outside the EU the UK can still be part of the single market, the two AREN'T mutually exclusive.

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But you have to pay to be in that single market, with no say, just take alook at how much Norway pay in, they are one of the EU big guests contributors by population, you or Baz if you were honest would not like that option either.

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You have got your information all the wrong way round. Because most EU regulations originate at International Organisations, and because the UK doesn't have a seat at the table on any of these Organisations (being but a small cog in the EU machine) while Norway does, Norway has more say in the regulations that the EU give to us than we do. As for the contributions Norway makes, these aren't membership fees but rather their contributions to joint EU/Norwegian projects as negotiated between the EU and the sovereign state of Norway. The UK, it seems, is only able to negotiate ever increasing contributions.

 

As for big business being pro EU, does it not occur to you that this is precisely because of the ever increasing regulation of business the EU imposes? Big businesses love more regulation because they can absorb the costs involved more easily than any smaller competitors and are thus able to squeeze them out of business. But this probably doesn't fit in with your soft focus view of the world.

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No you have your up information wrong, Norway has to put up or shut up, it pays a great deal for very little say, and a hell of a lot less say than Countries that are members of the EU.

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