Economies of scale

[asperity]

The latest generation of container ship cutting pollution:

 

http://www.worldslargestship.com/the-ship/#page/environment

[observer]

Are these the size that Liverpool is building it's new dock for?

[asperity]

I doubt they will fit into Liverpool. Felixstowe probably, at a pinch.

[Lt Kije]

Interesting Asp, not really thought about pollution from shipping, nice to see they are cleaning their act up on CO2, Shipping was around 5 to 6 % of total CO2 emissions ten years ago, Aircraft were at about 2 or 3%, to be fair Aircraft emissions were going up due to the popularity of going abroad. Every little helps as they say

[Bazj]

 Every little helps as they say

 

tell that to India and China and get them to have windmills all over their national parks.... not going to happen is it??

 

 

Never mind, the toga wearing tree huggers in charge over here will try and make up for it by imposing green taxes on us all....

[Evil Sid]

I may seem a bit daft but could not help wondering how it all works with the carbon cutting. surely when the ship is loaded it takes X number of containers which have to be first transported by road using a certain number of lorries.the ship transports the cargo to it's destination where the same number of lorries the transport it to the final destination. the only saving that i can see is that instead of say three ships transporting the containers they use one. but still the same number of lorries at each end.

ah now i get it the saving is on the shipping across the oceans bit.

[asperity]

It's cleaner if the containers are moved by rail rather than by road.

[Lt Kije]

Container ships are a vast improvement on what we had before, And with the new efficiencies In the new ships things are getting better, we all need goods and food, A more efficient way of delivering them should be welcomed.

[observer]

If we produced more food locally, we'd need less container movements in the first place?

[Lt Kije]

I like Bananas Obs and pineapples

[Egbert]

I heard on the radio yesterday that if all the containers on a particular ship were loaded onto lorries, the vehicles would stretch three quarters of the way to the Moon (not literally, of course, for the benefit of the one-line joke idiots!)

[Lt Kije]

Heard the same, I like radio 4 as well.

[observer]

Ever heard of green houses Kije, we can produce anything.

[Evil Sid]

not any more we can't

[Lt Kije]

Where do we grow bananas on an industrial scale in the UK Obs?

[observer]

Don't think they've started yet, but it's quite possible - some companies are already building huge automated greenhouses for just that purpose.

[Lt Kije]

Think you will find an imported Banana will be cheaper Obs, we should stick to grow what we can naturally grow in the UK.

[observer]

Ooops sorry, I thought you were concerned about the carbon footprint !

[observer]

btw Kije, there was a prog on tonight called "Harvest"; in which a 25acre greenhouse was shown, which is producing tomatoes all year round. As I said, we can produce anything - IF we have the will.

[Lt Kije]

At what cost?

[observer]

Make your mind up Kije, thought it was you, who wants to save us from global warming?!