asperity Posted October 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 Your xenophobia is showing Obs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 Your xenophobia is showing Obs. So why is it acceptable for Israel to have them, but not other States, and who decides, ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted October 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 Was that question directed at me Lt Kije? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy51 Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 It is good really that public opinion prevailed in the Syria crisis because the west would now be firmly supporting Al Qaeda forces mingled in with "freedom fighters" .....Al Qaeda forces are now apparently turning against any rebel militia units that oppose them & are flying Al Qaeda flags openly, wiping out Christians as well as championing demands for the introduction of sharia law in a "free Syria". Experts estimate that as many as 7/10,000 Al Qaeda troops are operating in Syria & many more thousands in Somalia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 How is it "xenophobic" to suggest equal treatment of all Countries in the M/East ASP? What's good for Israel should apply to the rest - so either they all have a bomb or none of them have a bomb - you decide which is safer ?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted October 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 It's xenophobic to want two foreign countries to wipe each other out with nuclear weapons. Personally I wish nobody had them, and I certainly don't want to see proliferation. Do you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 No I don't Asp, but I don't think Israel has the right to say to Iran that you can't have them, when they already do. But like you I which non of them had it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted October 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 Israel has the right to say whatever it wants within reason, unless there is some embargo against Israel saying what it thinks? Now here's an "off the wall" thought, would Israel want to waste time and money developing nuclear weapons if it didn't feel threatened by the majority of its neighbours? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 Of course any sane person would want to see a reduction in the number of countries having these weapons; but non-proliferation needs to apply to all, including Israel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted October 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 Well sanity doesn't appear to be a character trait commonly found amongst Israel's enemies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 Perhaps a good reason to ensure they never tool up with nukes, but equally, the reason Israel should lead by example; after all, they still have the US umbrella to shelter under. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted October 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 Not with Barry O'Bama in charge they don't. He's sucking up to the ayatollas as we speak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 Don't be fooled Asp; the Zionist lobby in the US is extremely powerfull; and US aid to Israel continues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted October 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 I think you should be more worried about the Islamist threat to world peace than the Israelis Obs. I think you have your anti semitism glasses on backwards! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 Fortunately, I don't differentiate between the two; both are led by religious fanaticism; the cause, imo of most instability in the World. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted October 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 But Israel isn't threatening to spread her version of fanatacism across the whole world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 4, 2013 Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 No - just throughout the Land of milk and honey, especially bequeathed to them by God ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted October 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 I thought Yorkshire was God's own country Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 4, 2013 Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 That was promised " by- Gum", not by God ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy51 Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 Did anyone see the BBC programme about the Ottoman empire ? It was on last Sunday & i think there are 2 more episodes , but i only managed to watch it last night . Apparently it disintegrated about 1916 after getting on for 700 years & leaving the modern Arab countries that we now see bordering the Med. The programme said a lot of the modern day problems in the middle east stem from the religious actions of the Ottomans turning Sunni against Shia muslims & vice versa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 Religious Sectarianism has been the source of most conflicts throughout history and continues to ignite conflicts around the world to this day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted October 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 The Napoleonic wars? WW1? WW2? Korean war? Vietnam? Crimean? Spanish Civil? American War of Independence? You really need to put your thinking cap on before making sweeping statements like that Obs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 "Conflicts" Asp: Ulster, Syria, India/Pakistan, Burma, Yugoslavia, Iraq, just to mention a few recent ones. The list would be too long, if we go further back in history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 Religious Sectarianism has been the source of most conflicts throughout history and continues to ignite conflicts around the world to this day. Throughout history Religion has been a source of War and persecution Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted October 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2013 A source granted, but not the main source - I think political idealism wins this hands down in terms of millions of innocent lives lost. Soviet Russia, Communist China, Pol Pot, Vietnam nothing to do with religion. Conflicts in Africa - mainly tribal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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